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Originally Posted by Alan This is good news but done without torough testing could be worse :
1) I predict foilists will develop very soon a technique of flicked counter attack and escape.
2) The lockout will still be to favorable to defense, remise, counter attacks.
3) How will the young children learn the convention with such a short lockout
(specially for them) ?
They will get bad habits of contorsions, protections from the beginning.
The lockout must put be back to a longer value. |
Having fenced a large number of competitions against many different levels of fencer on the new timing, I would agree that the current (unofficial) timings support ducks, counter attacks, and remises. The lockout time influences this, but is not the cause of it. Typically what I have seen happen is:
A attacks
B parries (lets say counter six)
A puts his head down and remises
B begins flick riposte to back, realises "oh yeah that won't work" and then gives a straight riposte afterwards
result: a one light touch for A, but I would say the main cause is indecision on B's part which will go away once he adjusts. Or alternatively will go away if the times switch to 8ms.
A couple things to say about the remises/ducks:
1) First of all, I am not the level of fencer you are looking for but I am not a beginner and I have been able to adjust my flicks to hit fencers who duck, even with the new timings.
2) Second of all even if I am not flicking I have learned other ways to put the tip on within the 300ms lockout.
3) The reason the duck/remise/counterattack was so much less common with the old timings was IMO much more the debounce than the lockout. Currently (new times) when I am pressing my opponent I have a few less options in terms of target area to finish on, so that even the threat of a counter attack makes me much more hesistant: here is where the lockout time comes in. The attacker is now punished much more for his indecision : previously if I was advancing right hander to right hander planning a flick to the chest, and my opponent did one of those contortionist "put my head down close four and stab" things all I had to do was react to that by hitting him on the open target, the back. Even if I was late to react or was hit quite early all I had to do was turn a light on in reasonable time. Now, the attacker must choose the right line much more quickly, which is taking some getting used to but is not necessarily bad.
I really hope the 8ms goes through, I would love this lockout time if I could just flick those remisy bastards on the back again.
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