04-04-2005, 09:06 AM
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#61 | | Senior Member
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| who am i?
king rene kicked my can! boo hoo
i am the only person who hates the new timins!
everyone loves the handsome king rene but me.
i have a broken recording and noone understands me.
i am looney and cant stop!
king rene is my tru love and he ignores my pleas for attention.
i want this dream to end and wake up in the shower with king my love rene!
every day i profess my love to king reney and all he gives me back is new timings.
please help me. ive fallen down and i cant get up.
if only i had a brain and instructions on how to use it. | 
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04-04-2005, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ChubbyHubby We know your views on the timings. But you are just repeating yourself over and over again. Don't think you have bought a single new point to the discussion for weeks.
Look, I am not pro new timings - I am a march and flick fencer. But they are NOT going to change it back. They are going in the right direction by going to 8ms. Hey, they might even lengthen the blockout slightly at some point. But its never going to be the 15ms/700ms again.
You can't say there is *nothing* positive at all with these new timings. | I say and i repeat that there is nothing positive with these new timings.
The more so as they have been brought for other reasons aka foil telegeny.
And i don't need to bring new points : the truth is enough.
Now this is only *my* opinion. If a majority of foilists wanted to use these
broken test timings, i would accept them with grace because i am a democrat.
Fortunately, this is obviously not the case as the recent rumor of going back to 8 ms seems to confirm it.
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04-04-2005, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Flagrant da Nut who am i?
king rene kicked my can! boo hoo
i am the only person who hates the new timins!
everyone loves the handsome king rene but me.
i have a broken recording and noone understands me.
i am looney and cant stop!
king rene is my tru love and he ignores my pleas for attention.
i want this dream to end and wake up in the shower with king my love rene!
every day i profess my love to king reney and all he gives me back is new timings.
please help me. ive fallen down and i cant get up.
if only i had a brain and instructions on how to use it. | It is not even funny.
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04-04-2005, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan I won't answer on the "Ali" domain ... I tought this forum had anti-racist
ethics. | ???
I was merely comparing the verbal diarrhoea...
if you read that as a racist comment you really have problems with reading. | |
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04-04-2005, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ChubbyHubby ???
I was merely comparing the verbal diarrhoea...
if you read that as a racist comment you really have problems with reading. | No i don't have your culture. I don't know this "Comical Ali".
(and i don't miss it)
But that's not the point.
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04-04-2005, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ChubbyHubby But its never going to be the 15ms/700ms again.
| And some people here (you ?) said a few weeks ago these broken test timings
are here for ever.
Fortunately some top foilists in Seoul (but they are champions ...)
and some federations are not so fatalist.
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04-04-2005, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan No i don't have your culture. I don't know this "Comical Ali".
(and i don't miss it)
But that's not the point. | quod erat demonstrandum (or QED) as they say...  | |
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04-04-2005, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ChubbyHubby quod erat demonstrandum (or QED) as they say... | Yes and i am sure you know more French Authors than me English Authors ...
But that's not the point again.
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04-04-2005, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan And some people here (you ?) said a few weeks ago these broken test timings
are here for ever. | I just said they are not going to just abandon the changes and go back to the old timings. | |
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04-04-2005, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ChubbyHubby I just said they are not going to just abandon the changes and go back to the old timings. | Yes some people are too proud for that 
I'll sign for 6 and 600 ms.
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04-04-2005, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan Yes some people are too proud for that
I'll sign for 6 and 600 ms. | Well, they are going for 8ms for impact time. And that is not far from 6ms at all. It is less than the old tolerance which was 1ms to 5ms. So for 8ms the spec is probably 6ms to 10ms.
600ms? I think they might eventually go to 400-500ms - so probably Sept 2006... | |
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04-04-2005, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ChubbyHubby Well, they are going for 8ms for impact time. And that is not far from 6ms at all. It is less than the old tolerance which was 1ms to 5ms. So for 8ms the spec is probably 6ms to 10ms.
600ms? I think they might eventually go to 400-500ms - so probably Sept 2006... | Not to be rude, but can you give any source documentation for this information.
So far, all I've seen is a rumor that floated back from Jr Worlds.
These rumors often don't pan out, and I recall the statements that the new timings were only going to be applied to the Jr Intl events as a test, and then bang everyone got stuck with them.
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04-04-2005, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr Epee Not to be rude, but can you give any source documentation for this information.
So far, all I've seen is a rumor that floated back from Jr Worlds.
These rumors often don't pan out, and I recall the statements that the new timings were only going to be applied to the Jr Intl events as a test, and then bang everyone got stuck with them. | No, as I've said I was told by a UK coach that just came back from the Jr Worlds. Not claiming it to be anything official.
Since it is the FIE, it won't surprise me it ends up being something completely different. An engineer in the UK has just completed an unofficial report on why the straight hits are not registering (similar to the Favero report) plus what tests the FIE should be doing. I'll post a link as soon as we get it up on a UK website. | |
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04-04-2005, 12:18 PM
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| Remove Rene!
I think we should start sending him postacards for each touch in foil that clearly lands and the machine does not go off!
He is trying to fix things that are not broken!
cheers | |
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04-04-2005, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ChubbyHubby No, as I've said I was told by a UK coach that just came back from the Jr Worlds. Not claiming it to be anything official.
Since it is the FIE, it won't surprise me it ends up being something completely different. An engineer in the UK has just completed an unofficial report on why the straight hits are not registering (similar to the Favero report) plus what tests the FIE should be doing. I'll post a link as soon as we get it up on a UK website. | Link to report: http://www.southwestfencing.net/temp...lArticleID=968 | |
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04-04-2005, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan No i don't have your culture. I don't know this "Comical Ali".
(and i don't miss it)
But that's not the point. | 1. go to www.google.com
2. copy and paste the words "Comical Ali" into the search box
3. click on the search button
Read up, inform yourself, and enjoy.
Don't call people out as "racist" when you obviosly have no clue.
Craig | |
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04-04-2005, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by R. Exnicios Remove Rene!
I think we should start sending him postacards for each touch in foil that clearly lands and the machine does not go off!
He is trying to fix things that are not broken!
cheers | Yes. May be he should practice fishing more often 
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04-04-2005, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Craig 1. go to www.google.com
2. copy and paste the words "Comical Ali" into the search box
3. click on the search button
Read up, inform yourself, and enjoy.
Don't call people out as "racist" when you obviosly have no clue.
Craig | Yes you are right.
But he could have chosen "Comical John"
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04-04-2005, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Yes you are right.
But he could have chosen "Comical John" | Craig, I don't think Alan gets it, do you?  | |
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04-04-2005, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ChubbyHubby Craig, I don't think Alan gets it, do you? | Yes i get it.
But in an international forum you may understand that "Comical Ali" may not be known by a French. So it was probably a bad example to take from the start.
I wouldn't compare you to Jamel Debbouze for instance.
Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf is not known as Comical Ali in France.
(I would add that since his name is not Ali, calling him Ali is in my opinion
a racist attitude. I am not saying *you* are racist.
I would add that he may be known for his obvious lies,
but there is another president much more powerful which is also well known
for his obvious lies about some weapons still to be found in Irak... but i would refrain to go on the political domain here)
In fact, i think somebody else would be better compared with Comical Ali
in his obstination to refuse the truth
when in fact these broken test timings have completely spoiled foil
by transforming it into Foilepee, which a large majority of foilists
obviously dislike, but i won't do that either.
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