03-28-2005, 07:05 PM
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| Oriental SCA!
Oriental style SCA
I found a link to some horrible oriental type play fighting. These guys are so off balance and are spinning around like monkeys and exposing their backs. http://www.internationalsportschanbara.net/class.html | 
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03-29-2005, 01:16 AM
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|  eek, you're right! They wouldn't last a minute in real combat with sharp swords.
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03-29-2005, 10:35 AM
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| And of course...
both of you are the survivors of many duels 
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03-29-2005, 04:27 PM
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| meh... only one.
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03-29-2005, 05:02 PM
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| In the first video it looked like the guy on the right got hit in the back 2 or 3 times when he dropped down really low in a failed attack, but it looked like they ignored those strikes in favor of a cut to the head.
I would think that a few strong cuts to the muscles of the upper back would be pretty damaging. Maybe not fataly but definetly imparing.
But then again they do refer to it as "play fighting"
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03-29-2005, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by esskreemr both of you are the survivors of many duels | *harrumph* I'm just saying....   Fencing came from actual fighting, where the objective was to not get hit, unless you wanted to die. But of course you know that 
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03-29-2005, 09:34 PM
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| ha
know whats funny?
i did that for 2 or 3 years, along with kendo.
that why i went from U to B in about 6 months.
gg suckers
and to clarify, its not oriental sca. you can't really judge it until you try it. you guys looking at it and saying its not "real" is just like a historical or classical fencer looking at foil fencing pre-new timings and scoffing. | |
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03-29-2005, 09:47 PM
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| Why don't you just stop your BS noodles. It's obvious that you don't know jack about martial arts. You and your Oriental SCA slap fighting girlfriends and go back to fantasy land. | |
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03-29-2005, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Elemental In the first video it looked like the guy on the right got hit in the back 2 or 3 times when he dropped down really low in a failed attack, but it looked like they ignored those strikes in favor of a cut to the head.
I would think that a few strong cuts to the muscles of the upper back would be pretty damaging. Maybe not fataly but definetly imparing.
But then again they do refer to it as "play fighting" |
These guys have no idea about defending themselves before hitting. They do complete spin arounds after they miss!
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03-29-2005, 10:05 PM
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| ouch, mature.
these guys aren't really that bad. have you ever been hit by a spin kick? a spinning back fist maybe? have you even participated in more than like 4 years worth of actual martial arts? if yes, you'll know there's a reason for the occasional spin, so don't knock it.
but whats more likely is they knew they're being taped for the world to see and they wanted to "show off".
edited to add: there's even a pretty good chance these are what you might call "rehearsed", i was looking and i got the feeling a few of the actions were a bit prepared.
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03-29-2005, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by noodle ouch, mature.
these guys aren't really that bad. have you ever been hit by a spin kick? a spinning back fist maybe? have you even participated in more than like 4 years worth of actual martial arts? if yes, you'll know there's a reason for the occasional spin, so don't knock it.
but whats more likely is they knew they're being taped for the world to see and they wanted to "show off". | No. Since I pop them right in the back of the head when they expose it. And lets face it. these guys suck.
As for me, I have black belts in Karate, Taekwondo, Wing Tsun, Hapkido and Fukyeuniga. | |
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03-29-2005, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge No. Since I pop them right in the back of the head when they expose it. And lets face it. these guys suck.
As for me, I have black belts in Karate, Taekwondo, Wing Tsun and Fukyeuniga. | yeah, tell me about it. its been a long time since i've been hit with a spinning back kick, but i score a lot with them. depending on the circuit you compete in, a spin adds points and a jump adds even more.
what flavor of karate? (and read my previous post edit) | |
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03-29-2005, 10:22 PM
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| [quote=noodle]
what flavor of karate? QUOTE]
Serpent Fist Shotokan Karate
Edparkerdo Karate
Compton Steet Kempo | |
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03-29-2005, 10:22 PM
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| I've got a green belt in TKD... its not worth anything. I did do some kung-fu and wing chun from a martial arts instructor by the name of zibin guo... it was very hard work. I feel however, that fencing's distance and timing, combined with a rudimentary knowledge of basic kicks, punches and strikes, plus the conditioning that fencing has given me, makes me atleast an acceptable fighter. The spinning and stuff in my opinion, is silly, because it exposes you... would you spin in fencing?
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03-29-2005, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by noodle what flavor of karate? QUOTE]
Serpent Fist Shotokan Karate
Edparkerdo Karate
Compton Steet Kempo | lovely. trying to decipher...
so is that just plain shoto, american kenpo, and i don't even know.
and dfp, i wouldn't spin in fencing because i'm attached to a cord and only have one weapon. | |
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03-29-2005, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by noodle lovely. trying to decipher...
so is that just plain shoto, american kenpo, and i don't even know.
and dfp, i wouldn't spin in fencing because i'm attached to a cord and only have one weapon. | alright... in a duel, with sharps, would you spin?
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03-29-2005, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by noodle lovely. trying to decipher...
so is that just plain shoto, american kenpo, and i don't even know.
| That's because you don't know much about martial arts. Email me if you need to learn. | |
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03-29-2005, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by noodle and dfp, i wouldn't spin in fencing because i'm attached to a cord and only have one weapon. | The reason we don't tuen our backs when we fight is because it's stupid. Just like how we don't tie our shoe laces while driving. | |
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03-29-2005, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by D+F+P=Hadouken! alright... in a duel, with sharps, would you spin? |
Forget it man. noodle just wants to defend the Oriental SCA dudes. A guy who really knows martial arts will know when to stop talking when he doesn't know what he is talking about. | |
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03-29-2005, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge That's because you don't know much about martial arts. Email me if you need to learn. | sure, i'll admit i'm out of the MA loop and happy to learn. but if i email you and you're BSing me i'll not be happy, becuase i'm almost positive thats what you're doing. Quote: |
Originally Posted by reverselunge The reason we don't tuen our backs when we fight is because it's stupid. Just like how we don't tie our shoe laces while driving. | Quote: |
Originally Posted by D+F+P=Hadouken! alright... in a duel, with sharps, would you spin? | jesus tapdancing christ, these guys are NOT FIGHTING FOR REAL. what they are doing is similar to modern foil. there are rules in place and they're doing stuff that they would not do in a real fight in order to SCORE POINTS. just like spin kicks in modern circuit point sparring. i can't believe i'm really having this conversation on this board...
"if those foils were sharp and you flicked me, you'd be dead" 
i know how to REALLY fight and i would never spin. i would never kick above the waist. but thats not what we're talking about. | |
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