Foil Experiment

[DieterS]

As many have noticed, the provisional foil timings result in many touches that don't register. As I suggested on another thread, here's something to try. Before taping your blade, paint the uppermost 1/4 inch (.6 cm) of the outside of your barrel with something like nail polish. Then tape your barrel.

This should reduce the possibility of a short circuit between your barrel and your opponent's lame'. Note that even with the old timings, if your tip tape slipped down and exposed a small part of the barrel, some of your touches would not register.

If you try this experiment, please let us know if you notice a difference.

Dieter

[Ryne]

I've never had a problem with my tip shorting out... just spending some extreme care when taping your tip eliminates the problem.

Besides, I think I read somewhere that only tape is allowed on the tip?

[DieterS]

Yes, it is legal to varnish the barrel with an insulating medium. From the FIE Rulebook, m.13:

"The body of the button <this means the barrel -ds> and the foil blade for a length of 15 cm from the button, as well as the pommel or rear extremity of the handle, must be entirely covered with insulating material (insulating tape, gummed paper, Sellotape, plastic material or varnish)."

Dieter

[DanInMI]

Yes, it is legal to varnish the barrel with an insulating medium. From the FIE Rulebook, m.13:

"The body of the button <this means the barrel -ds> and the foil blade for a length of 15 cm from the button, as well as the pommel or rear extremity of the handle, must be entirely covered with insulating material (insulating tape, gummed paper, Sellotape, plastic material or varnish)."

Dieter

Well....I don't know if that's true Deiter. After all, not all rules are actually contained within the rulebook. Just ask anybody around here.

[mrbiggs]

Well....I don't know if that's true Deiter. After all, not all rules are actually contained within the rulebook. Just ask anybody around here.

Well, I doubt it'll be a problem at local events, because it won't even be noticed if the blade is taped properly. The question is whether or not the blade would be OK at National events, which is something our resident armorers can answer...

[DieterS]

After all, not all rules are actually contained within the rulebook.

Which rules did you have in mind?

Dieter

[Craig]

Dan feels the need to inject this comment into a great number of threads where it is not relevant. Dan is referring to the fact that some of us feel that to properly interpret the right of way rules in the weapons that you need to have some outside knowledge of fencing that is not contained explicitly in the rules. The most obvious and most-quoted such example is that the rule for right of way in foil does not mention which arm (weapon or non-weapon) should be extending in order to be considered an attack.

Since your rule quote was of the technical/material specifications for the weapon, that comment doesn't belong here. If you really want to waste some O2 and time, just do a search on any of the foil right of way questions and you'll see this exchange come up around page 2 or 3. (I think that it is now mandated in the fencing.net terms of service that the same comments pop up on page 3, but I'm not sure.)

Craig

[DanInMI]

Dan feels the need to inject this comment into a great number of threads where it is not relevant. Dan is referring to the fact that some of us feel that to properly interpret the right of way rules in the weapons that you need to have some outside knowledge of fencing that is not contained explicitly in the rules. The most obvious and most-quoted such example is that the rule for right of way in foil does not mention which arm (weapon or non-weapon) should be extending in order to be considered an attack.

Since your rule quote was of the technical/material specifications for the weapon, that comment doesn't belong here. If you really want to waste some O2 and time, just do a search on any of the foil right of way questions and you'll see this exchange come up around page 2 or 3. (I think that it is now mandated in the fencing.net terms of service that the same comments pop up on page 3, but I'm not sure.)

Craig

Hey, I was making a joke. Lighten up.
(But that is NOT the example that I was reffering to.)

[DHCJr]

I for one, don't understand your joke. What Dieter wrote is a rule that is in the rule book.