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shango · 03-13-2005, 12:54 PM

God, here we go again, achilleus taking on the entire fencing shoe wearing community...

Dax · 03-13-2005, 01:14 PM

Wow, when I asked which shoes would be good for me to wear, I didn't think it would get into a full scale debate... It has been very informative though. Yesterday I went searching for court shoes, and I couldn't really find ones I liked that they had in my size, because I wear a 15. So I am just going to order a pare of Li-Ning's, if I can't find them in my size, then I will just get a pair of D'Art IIs from Absolute Fencing.

Thanks for all of the help.

prototoast · 03-13-2005, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dax

Wow, when I asked which shoes would be good for me to wear, I didn't think it would get into a full scale debate... It has been very informative though. Yesterday I went searching for court shoes, and I couldn't really find ones I liked that they had in my size, because I wear a 15. So I am just going to order a pare of Li-Ning's, if I can't find them in my size, then I will just get a pair of D'Art IIs from Absolute Fencing.

Thanks for all of the help.

Li-Nings are not made above size 12, and they're still cut a little small.

Dax · 03-13-2005, 01:26 PM

Yeah, I figured that out. I just found a volleyball shoe that looks promising.

http://www.paragonsports.com/Paragon...4&IID=24-BN407

Would that be a good shoe to go for, it is in my size and has an affordable price + free shipping. After reading another topic, I looked at the site that was listed and saw these. Any good?

Moses · 03-13-2005, 02:19 PM

Those shoes look very similar to an Asics shoe popular at my club. They may be the same shoe. They're very comfortable, I'm told, and the gel heel is so soft you don't notice it's not rounded.

But that's third-party info.

-Da Mose

whtouche · 03-13-2005, 03:52 PM

the heel/soles look reallllly thick on those..

mackillian · 03-13-2005, 04:39 PM

I've used both court shoes (more than one type) and indoor soccer shoes. My feet like the indoor soccer shoes much, much better.

To each his own.

achilleus · 03-13-2005, 05:29 PM

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I highly doubt they make a ping pong shoe. The only football players that wear soccer cleats are kickers, because what they do is more akin to soccer, rather than football. And this is not just on the professional/college level where they are sponsored, but also on the high school, middle school, and pee-wee levels as well.

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Are fencing specific neccessary to fence? No. Are they neccessary for success? No Would they likely help someone with their footwork? Yes. Not to be condecending, but I don't think that epee is the place to look for masters of footwork.

You're not being condesending in that comment. Just showing your ignorance. Check out some of the top French and Italian fencers. Or better yet, Kolobkov. Epee fencers have some of the best footwork. No, it's not used like in foil or sabre, but that doesn't make it bad.

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You say that you would wear fencing shoes if someone gave them to you for free. Is this because they would simply be a free shoe, or you believe that they do give some advantage, however slight? If it is the latter, than I must ask why you don't pay the money for the shoes.

I'd wear it because it's free. In fact, the couple times that I've won or been given fencing shoes, I either sell them or trade them for other equipment.

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When I played football, I happily shelled out houndreds of dollars for the best footwear that money could buy. When I threw the shotput in college, I also payed lots of money for top quality throwing shoes.

When I played football, I went to the store and bought cleats. I don't remember if they were baseball, football, or soccer, I just know they were cleats. When I played basketball in high school, I used to wear tennis shoes. Now, I wear basketball shoes for both basketball and tennis.

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will continue to pay money for top quality fencing shoes. If you don't wish to do so, that is your choice.

You're right it's my choice. And when someone asks for an opinion on a board, I'll give it. Especially when it's a beginner looking for an informed opinion.

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Please refrain from underhandedly insulting my fencing. When I said that my footwork improved vastly with fencing shoes I ws referring to a comparison from one day to the next. I do not care how hard you train, your footwork will not improve by leaps and bounds in one day.

Interesting that you think I was insulting your fencing while you have no compunction about saying that epee fencers have bad footwork.

Either way, I wasn't underhandly insulting your fencing. Merely pointing out that your footwork is as good as it regardless of the shoes you wear.

achilleus · 03-13-2005, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shango

God, here we go again, achilleus taking on the entire fencing shoe wearing community...

Well, I chose the name of a brutal warrior for a reason!

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Originally Posted by dax

I just found a volleyball shoe that looks promising.

http://www.paragonsports.com/Parago...54&IID=24-BN407

Would that be a good shoe to go for, it is in my size and has an affordable price + free shipping. After reading another topic, I looked at the site that was listed and saw these. Any good?

Those are pretty good. Cushioned, great traction, and lightweight. A lot of the fencers in my area wear those...

Dax · 03-13-2005, 06:17 PM

Cool thanks!

Alain · 03-13-2005, 06:42 PM

We had a club competition night this week and I'd managed to forget me fencing shoes (I always forget something). The shoes I wear normally are Adistar Lo's, but the shoes I wore on the night - basic Adistar-type-things which cost about £30, compared to £110 for the Adistars - were absolutely fine and in the end I didn't really notice!

Anyways, Achilleus seems to have this pretty much summed up. Fencing shoes are fine, but as long as you're wearing shoes which you feel comfortable in, then that's the most important

rcmatthews · 03-13-2005, 11:22 PM

I stand corrected on the ping pong shoes. Touche.

I did not insult your footwork, I merely made the comment the epee fencers are not generally known for having the most incredible footwork in the fencing world.

achilleus · 03-14-2005, 02:18 AM

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I stand corrected on the ping pong shoes. Touche.

I did not insult your footwork, I merely made the comment the epee fencers are not generally known for having the most incredible footwork in the fencing world.

I didn't take your comment as insult. I take it as a lack of understanding what makes good footwork.