USA Collegiate Fencing Club Championships (USACFC Championships)

**U.M.Amherst.Sabre95** · 03-10-2005 01:56 PM

Any information on the 2005 event?

**DJ Apostrophe** · 03-10-2005 02:18 PM

I know it is at michigan state on april 2nd & 3rd... that is all.

MSU put this page together: http://www.msu.edu/user/fencing/nccinfo.htm but there isn't all that much on it.

-w

**noodle** · 03-10-2005 03:19 PM

what information do you want to know?
24 men's teams, 21 women's teams, don't have a final list of the schools yet though.

april 2nd and 3rd at michigan state.

**TooLoftheDeviL** · 03-10-2005 04:14 PM

Clearly, the need to know information is where the par-tay is to be held.

**telkanuru** · 03-10-2005 04:27 PM

I know I'll be there...

**Dannon** · 03-10-2005 04:28 PM

24 men's teams and 21 women's? Seems like an ok turnout, though I can't remember if that was more or less than last year.

I may not even know what strip i'm fencing for my school yet, but i'm looking foward to the event. A whole day of fencing other clubs is a welcome change from fencing varsity teams on a club's funding at New Englands.

**KD5MDK** · 03-10-2005 05:07 PM

I'm sort of waiting for someone on my team to break...

We've had one woman sabre already injure herself out of it, and another who is doubtful. So the club is very close to taking near beginners simply to make up a full team, while all of the men have stayed healthy. As someone who likely would be picked as a replacement if any of them gets injured, it's a little irritating. (Not wishing misfortune on anyone, of course)

**noodle** · 03-10-2005 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Dannon

24 men's teams and 21 women's? Seems like an ok turnout, though I can't remember if that was more or less than last year.

I may not even know what strip i'm fencing for my school yet, but i'm looking foward to the event. A whole day of fencing other clubs is a welcome change from fencing varsity teams on a club's funding at New Englands.

part of the problem is that its no longer in driving distance for the teams that could drive to UNH last time. its tough as a littleish club to be able to generate the skill and money to make it there. especially since next time it'll be tejas.

**GreenDot** · 03-10-2005 05:38 PM

I'll be there, but directing as opposed to fencing. Ah well. Anyone want to throw any predictions out? I'm going to guess Michigan for MS since they are returning the 2nd place squad and were fencing pretty well the few times I've seen them. Northwestern has an entirely new MS squad this year, so there isn't much chance of defending I don't think. Our ME squad is rather strong this year with Bralow fencing again, so hopefully they can do well.

-James

**telkanuru** · 03-10-2005 05:56 PM

UMass for all 3 men's events. Our MS team has recieved a *significant* boost, with 1 new fencer and 2 muchly improved fencers, and last year's team is naught but a shadow of this year's. ME has stayed approximately the same, it's just we're all headcases... I know I'm going with a sack that shall be full of heads, though. MF is also pretty good; they were giving the NCAA's a run for their money this year.

Womens team I'm not so sure about. WF is pretty strong, and I don't have a high overall opinion of WE or WS on the club level, so I've never paid much attention to it. We won that title last year, though, and the composition of the teams have not changed significantly. We shall see.

**DJ Apostrophe** · 03-10-2005 06:15 PM

I haven't seen the any of the schools outside of the new england area... but I have to agree with telk....

Historically, UMASS has been fairly dominant over the past two years of this competition...

UMASS ME squad has the potential to make squish out of anyone and everyone, but just as telk said... they're all headcases ... MF I have no clue, MS I think UMASS wins the squad title and Ben White wins the individual title.

On the women's side of things I see UMASS' foil squad as a dominant force, considering what they did at new englands this year (2nd place amongst all the teams, and there were some pretty good squads there), additionally it is the last collegiate competition for two (and maybe all three) of them, and I think that will make them fence really well.

The Epee squad is not the UMASS WE squad of past years... that is the weakest of their three squads. WS has two fencers who have the ability to win ALL the bouts they fence, but who knows if they actually will... the third is a good fencer, just not the level of the top two.

I am hoping the UMASS team can pull off the 6-weapon championship again (just like they have the first two years of the competition)... it'll be interesting.

-w

**Dannon** · 03-10-2005 07:33 PM

Although I love trying to guess who's going to win in the New England conference, I'm really at a loss for predicting at USACFCs. I don't really know any other club teams out there.

However, for MS, I'm going to have to point out that Dartmouth has a great squad. Definitely stronger than in the recent past, and that's usually our best weapon.

That said, since UMass usually does so well at this competition, and Dartmouth's men team took home the top club title from New Englands, I got high hopes for us on all fronts.

**whtouche** · 03-12-2005 07:18 PM

I was pretty impressed with the strength of dartmouth's mens sabre fencers in all the encounters we(UMass) have had with them this season. Specifically Brian Smith, I think his name is.
Dannon, you go to dartmouth? Where did this guy come from? Near as I can tell he wasn't around last year, and after talking to him briefly after our last bout at new englands he said he started fencing/learned to fence at dartmouth. If so that's pretty impressive.

That aside tho, I have to second/third/fourth the votes for UMass to take overall 6 weapon team, beyond that I'll let the other squads handle their business knowing I have great confidence in them. I'll be focusing on doing what I can to secure a MS squad title, and an individual title for myself.

As stated above, the UMass MS squad contains none of the fencers who were there last year. We've one import who just became the first UMass MS fencer since 1995 to win the new englands individual title, another fencer who's only been at it for just over a year but has been working so hard he's a really impressive force, and another fencer who, with something like 8 years of experience and a recent convert to sabre is pretty tough to deal with. Don't bet against us.

**telkanuru** · 03-13-2005 01:36 AM

Originally Posted by whtouche

We've one import who just became the first UMass MS fencer since 1995 to win the new englands individual title

Whtouche is modest enough not to share that this is, in fact, him. He is, as they say, hella good

**noodle** · 03-13-2005 01:48 AM

i'm not throwing any guesses out about my team's chances.

what i AM throwing out is a suggestion that we obviously need to find a place to have some kind of thing and for the sabre guys and gals to get pre-tanked for the competition

**KD5MDK** · 03-13-2005 01:54 AM

It's East Lansing. What else is there to do?

None of our sabre team is heavy drinkers, I'm afraid, so unless I go at the last minute you'll have to get by without UT for that.

**noodle** · 03-13-2005 02:01 AM

just saying. wouldn't mind saying hi to some of you in a more than passing manner that i did to some at temple.

**telkanuru** · 03-13-2005 02:04 AM

To quote a local sabre coach before the Atlanta NAC, "No self-respecting sabreur is going to show up tomorrow sober."

I mean, it's nothing like the epeeist who showed up to NCAA's last year utterly hung over but expecting to win...

**noodle** · 03-13-2005 02:06 AM

well i know a few people who have fenced their absolute best when hung over. i also enjoyed the garrett open where i heard more than one of the girls say something to the effect of "i can't believe i'm still drunk" when warming up for the tourney.

**whtouche** · 03-13-2005 02:28 AM

Well, I don't drink but I could be persuaded to show up and mingle at least a little.
And I'm not "hella good", I don't think.
But I will be the stupidest dressed fencer in the room. Black lame with bright green shoes? please

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