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ReverseLunge · 03-09-2005, 05:33 AM

Sometimes I feel sad about having to have to die. Sometimes I feel scared. I am not religious so I don't believe in going to heaven or hell or any silliness like that.

Someone once told me that the amount of water on this earth has always been the same since it has nowhere else to go. I feel it's the same way with us. Our energy and mass goes back to nature and becomes the fuel for new life. I just find it sad that all the values and memories that made us disintegrate too.

Growth from death - just as winter kills and spring gives birth, sometimes we need a little death so that we can be rejuvenated and breath anew. It is not as if winter and spring are antagonists; rather, spring provides winter with something to ultimately kill and winter clears space so that spring can grow unencumbered.

Some people think that there is God or a higher intelligence that created everything. I just call it nature. And the whole point of nature is life. I feel everything that creates and sustains life is is pleasurable and meant to be so. Food, warmth, shelter, love, sex etc. None of these thing need to be earned. They are our given right since we are alive. Culture is what makes the natural into the unnatural and vice versa. Religion is the thing that makes us feel ashamed for having what is naturally ours. Shame is an ignoble social effort to compel conformity to convention, though without any basis except a desire to control.

I don't know guys. I just feeling kind of hopeless I guess.

Ryne · 03-09-2005, 01:13 PM

it's a freaky feeling... one that man has possessed since the beginning of time.

keith · 03-09-2005, 01:19 PM

death doesn't really count as a metaphysical problem.

... I'd get anxious about something else.

C.J. · 03-09-2005, 01:20 PM

Well, I've got news for you: the amount of water on Earth is not remain constant. Earth is losing water; at small rate, but losing nevertheless.

Tydive · 03-09-2005, 01:27 PM

The way I look at it we are all going to die and that is one of the few things we can count on. So rather than blame the universe for our temporary journey on this planet we should embrace life. The key is how you live. We all end up the same way, might as well do something meaningful with what you have while you have it.

The fact that you take food, shelter and love for granted tells me you need to experience far more of life. Take a trip down to the local soup kitchen or homeless shelter. Give your time to those less fortunate and perhaps you will come to appreciate those gifts in your life that you think are "rights". All being alive gives you the right to is death. Everything else is optional.

That's my version of a pep talk.

ReverseLunge · 03-09-2005, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by C.J.

Well, I've got news for you: the amount of water on Earth is not remain constant. Earth is losing water; at small rate, but losing nevertheless.

Where are we losing it to?

ReverseLunge · 03-09-2005, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tydive

The way I look at it we are all going to die and that is one of the few things we can count on. So rather than blame the universe for our temporary journey on this planet we should embrace life. The key is how you live. We all end up the same way, might as well do something meaningful with what you have while you have it.

The fact that you take food, shelter and love for granted tells me you need to experience far more of life. Take a trip down to the local soup kitchen or homeless shelter. Give your time to those less fortunate and perhaps you will come to appreciate those gifts in your life that you think are "rights". All being alive gives you the right to is death. Everything else is optional.

That's my version of a pep talk.

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If you wish for me to be ashamed in hopes that I then repeal and retract the expression of myself, that is unlikely to occur. However, you are welcome to pray for external forces to change the world in your image.

Maybe one day you can start living after you do decide to stop living for the approval of others.

I have more important things to do than help the folks that refuse to help themselves. Infact my Pop Tarts are coming out of the toaster any minute now.

Tydive · 03-09-2005, 02:24 PM

RL, none of those come even close to my motivations for the post I made. I guess I was trolled. /shrug.

Mergs · 03-09-2005, 02:26 PM

Seeing as there are no natural processes that either create or destroy water (and yes, that means that we are drinking the same water that passed through the dinosaurs, eeeeewww!) it could be argued that the atomic oxygen and hydrogen in low earth orbit could possibly be from un-combined water components.

That is unless he's talking about the small amount that is dumped overboard from spacecraft! There's that damn NASA screwing up the environment again.

keith · 03-09-2005, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mergs

Seeing as there are no natural processes that either create or destroy water (and yes, that means that we are drinking the same water that passed through the dinosaurs, eeeeewww!) it could be argued that the atomic oxygen and hydrogen in low earth orbit could possibly be from un-combined water components.

no its those nasty aliens who like a glass of water while cutting crop circles, abducting god fearing christians or mutilating cows.

... then they are going to kill as all by crashing a comet formed of frozen alien urine into the planet. Its true I tell you, TRUE!

ReverseLunge · 03-09-2005, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tydive

RL, none of those come even close to my motivations for the post I made. I guess I was trolled. /shrug.

I think I know what motivates you. You want to do charity so that you can feel good about yourself. Giving to others so that you can give back to yourself.

Boring.

Tydive · 03-09-2005, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge

I think I know what motivates you. You want to do charity so that you can feel good about yourself. Giving to others so that you can give back to yourself.

Boring.

Nope. Nice guess, but off the mark. On the other hand that description would fit my wife very well.

If you feel hopeless / bored it may well be because you feel entitled to what you have. More to the point, how you choose to FEEL about life is entierly up to you.

Cipher · 03-09-2005, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge

I don't know guys. I just feeling kind of hopeless I guess.

I see helplessness as a sign, often temporary, of personal weakness. Life is as good as you make it. Some days it is just harder than others to motivate yourself to turn life into what you want it. Focusing on death is pointless since that is something that no one can change. Prolonging, promoting, and improving life are the only worthwhile goals. So, buck up, walk it off and do something to change your life for the better. Things like this are rarely worth consideration unless you make your living in religion, spirituality, philosophy, or metaphysics. I'm not a big advocate of any of those things.

I'm going to live forever, or die trying.

ReverseLunge · 03-09-2005, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cipher

I see helplessness as a sign, often temporary, of personal weakness. Life is as good as you make it. Some days it is just harder than others to motivate yourself to turn life into what you want it. Focusing on death is pointless since that is something that no one can change. Prolonging, promoting, and improving life are the only worthwhile goals. So, buck up, walk it off and do something to change your life for the better. Things like this are rarely worth consideration unless you make your living in religion, spirituality, philosophy, or metaphysics. I'm not a big advocate of any of those things.

I'm going to live forever, or die trying.

Thank you. That makes a lot of sense to me.

lochinvar · 03-09-2005, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge

I think I know what motivates you. You want to do charity so that you can feel good about yourself. Giving to others so that you can give back to yourself.

Boring.

I find it curious that you would post this pile of self-pitying crap to a public forum and then turn around and insult those who, out of the understandable belief that you are looking for some encouragement, have bothered to offer some solace/advice.

Maybe the reason you feel hopeless is because you are, in fact, hopeless.

Soldier · 03-10-2005, 01:27 AM

Why does that surprise you at all? As usual, I was suspicious the moment I began reading a semi-articulate post from ReverseLunge. This is just another of his clips from DateJesus.com (what a strange site...). Just as every time, he copies something from some site on the net, tries to pass it off as his own, and cause a stir with it.

Really, ReverseLunge, your style's getting old and overused.

ReverseLunge · 03-10-2005, 01:51 AM

HAHA. Its funny how you try so hard to keep track of me while I don't care anything about you.

One of these day you will see me in person and you will have to salute me.

Soldier · 03-10-2005, 02:10 AM

Ah, so the old troll-goal of trying to make people waste time on you...

But, see, it takes no time at all to stick a line of your text into Google and search - drag, drop, click. Probably doesn't even take as long as it takes you to copy and paste from the website, let alone find the article you want in the first place.

And, we've been over the saluting thing before.

ThatReallyHurt · 03-10-2005, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge

Where are we losing it to?

If I recall correctly (and it's been a long time), water vapour can be broken down by radiation from the sun at very high altitudes. Single atoms of hydrogen and oxygen aren't very stable - they tend to pair up, thus keeping the H and O from easily combining again. It is, of course, possible to make water again if H2 and O2 are brought together in sufficient quantities with enough energy... It's kind of like having an ice cube in a hot room. Soon, you have all the parts you need to make an ice cube, you just don't have an ice cube.

Again, it's been a loooong time since I took this stuff, so I could be way off base...

ReverseLunge · 03-10-2005, 02:13 AM

You follow me as if I am your god. Shoot me an email if you need to confess and I will forgive you.