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Spike327 · 03-10-2005, 12:39 AM

Oh, and I agree with the few previous posts. You definitely don't have to have been fencing since you were born to be competetive on the collegiate level (or qualify for NCAAs) although overwhelming amounts of experience can be pretty helpful. But then again inherent, sheer athleticism can sometimes make someone's single year of experience look like 2 or 3.

fencerX · 03-10-2005, 02:20 AM

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No offense, but fencing at the NCAA level on one year's experience is most likely not a realistic goal for anyone.

This year, there actually are some walkons with less than a year of fencing experience who competed for their NCAA Div I teams. And there are more who might have more than 1 year of experience but who still started fencing in college, made teams and competed. When there aren't enough experienced fencers to fill out a team, some teams simply resort to making their own fencers by recruiting from PE classes. Even at Div I programs.

KD5MDK · 03-10-2005, 05:09 AM

My friend is the captain of the CalTech MS squad, and he started in college (went to my HS).

UNH is not only a club team, they hosted the college club national championships last year I think.

Nonpatat Panchan
I saw him fence at the Rose Condon and he was scary amazingly good. Haven't seen the others, but I understand he is an A in all three weapons and picked up his Sabre A at the first tournament he fenced sabre at.

Sabresque · 03-10-2005, 02:35 PM

Those who are picking Notre Dame over OSU must remember the amount of people each team qualified...

OSU: 11
ND: 10
PennSt: 11
St. Johns: 12 (but without as many big guns as other schools)

Personally i think the team trophy will be between Ohio State and Penn State. St. Johns will just mess with those two.

KShan5[PrFC] · 03-10-2005, 05:38 PM

Do I sense a little favoritism in that pick right there...? Is that homer pick?

Not that I disagree or anything, I'd be pickin OSU too.

GreenDot · 03-10-2005, 05:40 PM

According to the ND and NCAA sites, ND is sending 11. Is someone injured?

-James

telkanuru · 03-10-2005, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sabresque

St. Johns: 12 (but without as many big guns as other schools)

Arpad Horvath, Nitai Kfir, Henry Kennard, Benjamin Bratton, and Sergey Isayenko seem to be a fairly large quantity of fairly large guns...

prototoast · 03-10-2005, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by telkanuru

Arpad Horvath, Nitai Kfir, Henry Kennard, Benjamin Bratton, and Sergey Isayenko seem to be a fairly large quantity of fairly large guns...

Allow me to introduce you to the concept of women. They make up half the potential team "points".

fencerontheline · 03-10-2005, 07:06 PM

Well, on the st john's women's team, there seems to be some strong epeeists and a strong foilist, as well as a decent on... It's definitely not on par with the SJU Men's team, but it's still seems like a pretty good team...

I'm gonna place St johns at second with OSU as first.

telkanuru · 03-10-2005, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by prototoast

Allow me to introduce you to the concept of women. They make up half the potential team "points".

Where to the what now?

Sabresque · 03-10-2005, 10:57 PM

OSU Men: Boaz Ellis, Will Jeter, Denis Tolkachev, Christian Rivera, Jason Rogers, Adam Crompton

OSU Women: Siobhan Byrne, Amelia Gaillard, Hanna Thompson, Metta Thompson, Kaela Brendler

It just looks super strong to me, though it sounds as if it will be close.

Aeric · 03-10-2005, 11:01 PM

I think I know another reason, Miss Sabresque.

Go Bucks. =)

SenorEste · 03-10-2005, 11:13 PM

I'm going to beat a dead horse and agree with the whole not needing experience to fence competitivly at the NCAA level. Many (most even, going by the roster i think) of our fencers here at UNC come in with very little to no fencing experience, but are quite "competitive." While they might not be making it to nationals, some of our sophmore fencers (<2 years experience) make it to regionals, and held their own quite nicely.

Good luck to all attending, especially wes, benton, and courtney from UNC. I think Newkirk will do well, and I'm hoping to see my fellow UNC freshman Heimsath with a good show as well, cause well, he's the man.

I hope espn or somebody shows a bit of the nationals on television, even if it's only a clip of the final bout.

Go Heels.

rustica · 03-11-2005, 11:44 AM

ND over OSU. While the Ohio women are strong, they had a rough time against ND during duels this year. Except for sabre...but Zagunis spanked all of them and Providenza has steadily improved all season. Just ask Grench! But what I want to know....I was expecting to see two Jacobsons at NCAAs. Where's Sada? I would pick her to win. Other than that, it really could be anybody in women's sabre. Look at last year. Bond-Williams, Barratta, Crane and who wins? Providenza. In Men's foil, Ellis hasn't fenced as well as last year (something to do with new timings...) so again, I think the field is pretty open.
Wayne State owns epee. ND has women's foil. And Ghattas did really, really well at qualifiers against Crompton and Rogers.

whtouche · 03-11-2005, 11:53 AM

Whether OSU had a hard time against ND during duel meets is irrelevant, really. All OSU has to do is beat everyone else, or at least more than ND does, and it doesn't matter then if they lose to ND or not.
I put my pick on either Emily Jacobson or Mariel. I second the querey of Where is Sada?

prototoast · 03-11-2005, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by whtouche

Whether OSU had a hard time against ND during duel meets is irrelevant, really. All OSU has to do is beat everyone else, or at least more than ND does, and it doesn't matter then if they lose to ND or not.
I put my pick on either Emily Jacobson or Mariel. I second the querey of Where is Sada?

If I were to speculate, I'd say that due to her international schedule, she did not get enough bouts to be eligible.

haroldbuck · 03-11-2005, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rustica

ND over OSU. While the Ohio women are strong, they had a rough time against ND during duels this year.

I hope you mean "duals," since if you really mean "duels" then most of the OSU team is dead and there will be murder charges pennding against the ND women.

So, is anyone conducting an NCAA fencing tournament pool?

afc fencer · 03-11-2005, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by prototoast

If I were to speculate, I'd say that due to her international schedule, she did not get enough bouts to be eligible.

I don't think that would be the case. There's only been two senior cups. Emily and Mariel went to both of those plus junior comps and they still were able to make it.

prototoast · 03-11-2005, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by afc fencer

I don't think that would be the case. There's only been two senior cups. Emily and Mariel went to both of those plus junior comps and they still were able to make it.

Well, then I don't know why, but I do know Sada did not fence in a lot of Yale's competitions, so speculating that she didn't have enough bouts to qualify may still be valid.

DJ Apostrophe · 03-11-2005, 03:26 PM

There is a Grand Prix in Moscow for women's sabre on the same weekend (both team and individual). My money would be on the fact that she is planning to be there.

-w