03-08-2005, 07:12 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
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| Who gets the point?
In a foil bout Fencer A and fencer B start their attacks at the same time. Fnecer A finishes with a "Hiya! While Fencer B finishes with a "AAAAAAARRRRRHHHHHH YAHHH YAHHH YAHHHHH!!!!!"
So Who gets the point? | 
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03-08-2005, 07:15 PM
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| Hm...
That's a close one. If fencer B had another syllable in the scream, it would clearly be B's...
I guess it would really come down to which fencer is more well known...
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03-08-2005, 07:23 PM
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#3 | | Boom!
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| I think that it's obviously...
Wait - are we talking about doing this under the new timings, or the old ones?
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03-08-2005, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge So Who gets the point? | Nobody, foil is pointless  Ok, so maybe there is a point, but it's still dull and flat.
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03-08-2005, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Tydive Nobody, foil is pointless | That's only if you're fencing on the test timings, as TRH mentioned above.
In which case would've been no light, with a card for turning as both fencers turned to look at the box....
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03-08-2005, 07:49 PM
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| I would give it to A for having the funnier yell. Hiya. | |
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03-08-2005, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbiggs I would give it to A for having the funnier yell. Hiya. | 
Obviously you haven't kept up on the latest set of FIE directives on officiating...
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03-08-2005, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by achilleus
Obviously you haven't kept up on the latest set of FIE directives on officiating... |
Attack Parry ripo...NO! Your attack was louder, but his was more amusing. Touch left. En guarde! | |
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03-08-2005, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbiggs Attack Parry ripo...NO! Your attack was louder, but his was more amusing. Touch left. En guarde! | Exactly. A misinterpretation of the rules on your part. You don't judge by amusement alone. Length, volume, and humor all factor in. Thus, it's close in this case...
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03-08-2005, 09:16 PM
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| Simultaneous, obviously. And then I'd tell fencer A to go back to karate.
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03-08-2005, 09:44 PM
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#11 | | gother than thou
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| Fencer A is in preperation by the weak nature of his battle cry, but by the intensity of the cry of Fencer B, he clearly hit TOO hard and will receive no light.
Fencer A continues with a counter attack - Touch for Fencer A. | |
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03-08-2005, 10:46 PM
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#12 | | No, your mom's a lemur
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| I agree with Tool. And btw, how can you possibly only have 200 posts? I've seen you around here forever! And you post a decent amount, too. | |
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03-08-2005, 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Westley I agree with Tool. And btw, how can you possibly only have 200 posts? I've seen you around here forever! And you post a decent amount, too. | Same with DanInMI.
I think that it's actually a black card for fencer A, who, although ReverseLunge didn't mention it, kicked fencer B in the balls immediately after the touch, which is what prompted the yell. | |
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03-08-2005, 11:35 PM
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| No one gets the point. They probably both hit flat because they're both acting like saberists, if you ask me.
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03-09-2005, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by electricepeeist Simultaneous, obviously. And then I'd tell fencer A to go back to karate. | no..definitely B's point. his scream was louder and probably was enough to sway the official his way. i'd say attack B, counter attack A.  then i'd ban them both from foil. | |
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03-09-2005, 01:32 AM
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#16 | | gother than thou
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Originally Posted by Westley I agree with Tool. And btw, how can you possibly only have 200 posts? I've seen you around here forever! And you post a decent amount, too. | Been around forever, but I don't really post all that much. Usually ol' Noodles beats me to the punch on whatever it is that needs to be said. | |
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