View Poll Results: US Men's Epee - Allstar Team: The 90's - Voters
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Jon Normile
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Jim Carpenter
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Tamir Bloom
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Chris O'loughlin
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Robert Marx
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Michael Marx
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Justin Tausig
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Tris Thompson
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Array US Men's Epee - Allstar Selection: The 90's Got this one fixed...
Pick you allstar selection Take your time. Read carefully. -
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Array This is a blind poll, btw... so you can vote for fencers other than Tamir.
The only thing you have to fear is fear itself!
Last edited by Mr Epee; 03-08-2005 at 05:34 PM.
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Array Can you put in a little info/resume paragraph for how each one made it onto your list? -
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Array Yes, But that would take a little time to do a fair job.
Obviously most of these guys have all been on multiple National Teams and most have been on Olympic Teams.
I was hoping that most everyone would remember (at least heard of) these guys.
If you are really interested, we could put something a little more professional together. Take your time. Read carefully. -
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Array Gadzooks!
I haven't heard Tris' name in years...
Good though he was, he's not in the same caliber as the others mentioned.
That said, are we voting on results? Or personality? Or a combination? I mean, if we use a combination, T's automatically out. Results, Tris is automatically out.
Hm...
Last edited by Craig; 01-15-2008 at 05:52 PM.
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Array  Originally Posted by achilleus Gadzooks!
I haven't heard Tris' name in years...
Good though he was, he's not in the same caliber as the others mentioned. ...
That said, are we voting on results? Or personality? Or a combination? I mean, if we use a combination, T's automatically out. Results, Tris is automatically out.
Hm... There was a time when Tris was a pretty good fencer.
I'm pretty sure he won an NAC in the early 90's, he for sure medalled in a few. He put Cuomo out of the Paris WC one year... To make the 32 (or was it the 64). Either way it was a good American Result for the time. His results were extremely good for not being at the AC or Santelli's back then.
He did beat Tamir a number of times, which was always funny.
I don't know if we are voting on results, personality, or both... Usually Allstar voting is more than a little bizzare, so I didn't specify.
Last edited by Craig; 01-15-2008 at 05:59 PM.
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Array  Originally Posted by Mr Epee There was a time when Tris was a pretty good fencer.
I'm pretty sure he won an NAC in the early 90's, he for sure medalled in a few. He put Cuomo out of the Paris WC one year... To make the 32 (or was it the 64). Either way it was a good American Result for the time. His results were extremely good for not being at the AC or Santelli's back then.
He did beat Tamir a number of times, which was always funny. Considering I trained with Tris in the early 90's (when he was stateside), I'm quite aware of his results. And Tamir was on his way up, not yet the fearsome juggernaut he became. And that whole lefty, lefty thing is just weird...  Originally Posted by Mr Epee I don't know if we are voting on results, personality, or both... Usually Allstar voting is more than a little bizzare, so I didn't specify. I hear ya...
Just curious if you had anything specific in mind... We're no threat, people, we're not dirty, we're not mean
We love everybody but we do as we please
When the weather's fine,
We go fishin' or go swimmin' in the sea
We're always happy
Life's for livin', yeah, that's our philosophy -
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Array  Originally Posted by achilleus Considering I trained with Tris in the early 90's (when he was stateside), I'm quite aware of his results. Yeah, I thought that you guys used to fence together.  Originally Posted by achilleus And Tamir was on his way up, not yet the fearsome juggernaut he became. And that whole lefty, lefty thing is just weird... Yes, but even after Tamir had develop into that juggernaut, he always saved a special distain for Tris. So, you know it hurt his feelings a little. I find that funny. Take your time. Read carefully. -
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Array WAIT - Who voted for Justin? Take your time. Read carefully. -
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Array Himself, he posts here BTW. "I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. And from this side only! The flight of a half-man, half-bird. Dinosaurs nuzzling their young in pastures where strip malls should be. Cookies on dowels. All those moment, lost in time. Gone, like eggs off a hooker's stomach. Time to die" -Phil Ken Sebben -
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Array I have fenced Tris a couple of times, and although he definitely was past his prime when I fenced him, I enjoyed the bout very much. He made me earn my touches, which at the time and place I was fencing at was already good enough for me.
I choice went to Jon Normile. Haven't fenced him, but I have heard enough of him to know that he would be my top choice.
But I would have liked to be able to pick more than one (maybe 2 or 3 more). I know that you can't do that with these polls, so it had to be one. -
Jon Normile is a 3x National Epee champ., and former Olympic Team member. I cannot recite his WC record off the top, he he made decent results over the years, I seem to recall.
In the 90's, I think he has to be considered the winner based on sum achievement. I hv fenced him, and can say that he is a clean, fast, intelligent guy on the strip, and all that focus work Aladar teaches, I believe, has given him an ability to fence in the moment.
The only critique I've heard of Jon's game is that it lacks creativity. Comment came for a former Olympic guy who's been around the US national, intl and NY fencing scene for 2+ decades.
In epee, I guess you really need panache!
Normile is known to be a very decent person who is happy to give developing fencers a thought or two on his philosophy on the sport. All around, reportedly a vy good guy. JsPierre
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Last edited by germanguy; 01-02-2007 at 01:51 PM.
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Array  Originally Posted by germanguy Jim Carpenter made the final 8 at the Heidenheim World-Cup (GER), which is a pretty hard one. He was also on the '96 Olympic team and on several other World/Pan Am teams. And he is a really great guy to have around. Gee, it almost sounds like you guys fence together...
Hm...
Seriously, Jim is a great guy. Used to have a killer back flick... We're no threat, people, we're not dirty, we're not mean
We love everybody but we do as we please
When the weather's fine,
We go fishin' or go swimmin' in the sea
We're always happy
Life's for livin', yeah, that's our philosophy -
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Last edited by germanguy; 01-02-2007 at 01:51 PM.
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Array  Originally Posted by germanguy Rather drink together...  That's how I remember Jim training...
Drink in one hand, weight or epee in the other... We're no threat, people, we're not dirty, we're not mean
We love everybody but we do as we please
When the weather's fine,
We go fishin' or go swimmin' in the sea
We're always happy
Life's for livin', yeah, that's our philosophy -
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Array And he still knows his way around the beer stein . But also the epee well enough to repeatedly beat the pants off everyone in the SWS. And his students do pretty well too...
The Rose Condon this weekend in Shreveport should be interesting...
Jim Carpenter
Tamir Bloom
Jon Normile
There's three from that list right there, plus a host of supporting characters! That's it, I'm done with the discussion forums on F.net. It's had its uses, but the ideologues, ranters, and "experts" have drowned too many of the conversations. I'm changing my password to something random and never logging in again. -
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Array What about 3-time nat'l champ,Rob Stull,eh? -
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Array There was a similar thread about the 80's...
I'm pretty sure that Stull ended up in that thread.
Ben Atkins? - Well... hmm... I guess he didn't make the cut :-) Take your time. Read carefully. Similar Threads -
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