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Elendae · 03-07-2005, 06:36 PM

OK, I haven't found any posts on this... so, I got vinyl lettering done on my knickers, and now I need to take it off. The guy at the place I got it done was no help. Any suggestions?

D+F+P=Hadouken! · 03-07-2005, 06:43 PM

since its vinyl, which I believe is a plastic derivative (not sure about this though) you could try acetone to desolve the lettering. Only if your knickers are cotton though. Nylon knickers might desolve. I dunno though, wait till DHC or neevel posts.... they'll know more.

acaba · 03-07-2005, 07:11 PM

Does it really need to come off, or can you just cover it? Stitching some fabric over the name might be easier and less damaging that trying to remove it.

Elendae · 03-07-2005, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by acaba

Does it really need to come off, or can you just cover it? Stitching some fabric over the name might be easier and less damaging that trying to remove it.

I wasn't sure that covering it would be acceptable. As long as I can't see it there... but I'd feel better with it completely gone.

DHCJr · 03-07-2005, 07:36 PM

That is a new one for me. Now I have seen felt letters on lame. Not a good idea, by the way. I am not sure how they are attached.

pacer · 03-08-2005, 09:16 PM

It sounds like the letters may have been heated onto the knickers. Is there any chance you can carefully place some other piece of cloth on top of the letters and carefully apply heat (such as an iron) and see if they'd readhere or transfer to the cloth?

Elendae · 03-09-2005, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pacer

It sounds like the letters may have been heated onto the knickers. Is there any chance you can carefully place some other piece of cloth on top of the letters and carefully apply heat (such as an iron) and see if they'd readhere or transfer to the cloth?

Yes, they used a heated press-thingy (I'm all for technical terms). I might try this, but I'm afraid that it would just melt the letters in further. Even so, its worth a shot, I could still cover it with a patch of fabric if it doesn't work.

Larrison · 03-09-2005, 08:27 PM

Hmm.... what about melting something to cover the letters, if they were melted on? Like printing over the dark letters with white?

Other than that, you'd have to dissolve them off I'd guess. Paint thinner, acetone, rubbing alcohol, etc. And if the knickers are a synthetic material this would have to be done carefully since depending upon the specific material you might end up dissolving the threads in the fabric beneath them as well. So before trying that, you might test any potential solvent on a sacrifical part of the fabric -- like the end of a shoulder strap, it if has one.

For an expedient solution (but not permanent), get some white electrical tape, or white medical tape and just tape over it. You might have to explain to an amorer or director that its not to conceal a problem with safety equipment (like a tear or hole), but to ensure visual compliance. Model paint or something similar that sticks well to plastic might be a more permanent solution, but that's iffy....

Hmm.. does white lettering on a white background violate any rule?

Elendae · 03-11-2005, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pacer

Is there any chance you can carefully place some other piece of cloth on top of the letters and carefully apply heat (such as an iron) and see if they'd readhere or transfer to the cloth?

I tried it, and it didn't work. I will probably just sew some fabric over it. Thanks everyone for your advice.

Phrogger · 02-22-2006, 01:01 PM

Okay, I know this is an old thread, but is there any way to change the name on the back of a jacket? I think it's been established that it's almost impossible to get the lettering off, but would it be legal to sew a piece of fabric over the old name to affix the new name? I got married and it would be such a shame to have to just throw away a very nice Uhlmann 800N jacket. Not only that, but you can't even re-sell it or lend it to someone else with the name on it.

Ordway · 02-22-2006, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Phrogger

Okay, I know this is an old thread, but is there any way to change the name on the back of a jacket? I think it's been established that it's almost impossible to get the lettering off, but would it be legal to sew a piece of fabric over the old name to affix the new name? I got married and it would be such a shame to have to just throw away a very nice Uhlmann 800N jacket. Not only that, but you can't even re-sell it or lend it to someone else with the name on it.

Well, the easiest solution is not to change your name

Nothing that says you have to, after all! (I kept mine and am very happy with that.)

Otherwise... I don't know how to get the lettering off, but I don't see why you couldn't sell your jacket. If you sell it to a sabre fencer, there's absolutely no problem - the name goes on the lame, which goes over the jacket and hides the other name.

There's also the possibility of selling it to someone who doesn't compete at a national level and so doesn't care about the name. I have periodically donated or sold my old lames, so there are some Ordway Evil Twins here and there.

yeoldearmourer · 02-22-2006, 01:50 PM

Try laying a towel over the letters and used steam to try and remove it. Acteone will damage the fabic.

jjefferies · 02-22-2006, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Elendae

OK, I haven't found any posts on this... so, I got vinyl lettering done on my knickers, and now I need to take it off. The guy at the place I got it done was no help. Any suggestions?

Question: Why? did you do a name change? Is the lettering breaking?

Re original question: the only way that is feasible with that stuff is to pick it off a bit at a time. Long, time consuming and it tears a bit of the fabric with each piece picked off. I doubt solvents will do much for you. Heat and scrape. But you will be left with the name or parts of it still showing as a color variation.

KD5MDK · 02-22-2006, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Phrogger

Okay, I know this is an old thread, but is there any way to change the name on the back of a jacket? I think it's been established that it's almost impossible to get the lettering off, but would it be legal to sew a piece of fabric over the old name to affix the new name? I got married and it would be such a shame to have to just throw away a very nice Uhlmann 800N jacket. Not only that, but you can't even re-sell it or lend it to someone else with the name on it.

It is legal to sew a piece of fabric over it. That's all you need.

rcmatthews · 02-22-2006, 04:41 PM

Is there anything that says you can't fence in a jacket with someone else's name on it? For instance, you lose your jacket on the way to a NAC, but luckily you know someone who has an extra you can borrow, but it has their name on it. If you had knickers with your correct name on them, would this be legal?

Elendae · 02-22-2006, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jjefferies

Question: Why? did you do a name change? Is the lettering breaking?

Re original question: the only way that is feasible with that stuff is to pick it off a bit at a time. Long, time consuming and it tears a bit of the fabric with each piece picked off. I doubt solvents will do much for you. Heat and scrape. But you will be left with the name or parts of it still showing as a color variation.

wow... my old thread comes back to haunt me...

I changed my name, and had no desire to go around with the old name still there. I ended up sewing a patch of fabric over the lettering. No one's complained about it... no that I've gotten to very many tournaments this year..

Frank Pratt · 02-23-2006, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Elendae

wow... my old thread comes back to haunt me...

I changed my name, and had no desire to go around with the old name still there. I ended up sewing a patch of fabric over the lettering. No one's complained about it... no that I've gotten to very many tournaments this year..

I am pretty sure that this is specifically permitted in the USFA rules, as long as the patch is firmly sewed onto the jacket in a way that prevents it from catching a tip. AFAIK, this is pretty much the only legally feasable way to "replace" a name that has been printed directly on a pair of knickers or a jacket.

RITFencing · 02-24-2006, 02:09 AM

I've fenced a NAC with my name sewed onto my jacket and no one so much as commented on it, so it shoudl be fine.

MyrddinsPrecint · 02-24-2006, 01:33 PM

Alternatively, you could always just plan to eventually change your name to the name on the jacket/knickers you aquire.

it might save money...

: D

Ordway · 02-25-2006, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank Pratt

I am pretty sure that this is specifically permitted in the USFA rules, as long as the patch is firmly sewed onto the jacket in a way that prevents it from catching a tip. AFAIK, this is pretty much the only legally feasable way to "replace" a name that has been printed directly on a pair of knickers or a jacket.

The first lame that I bought for myself, I had Triplette print my name on it right away. Instead of my name being printed directly on the lame, it was printed on a strip of lame fabric which was sewn onto the back of the lame. I didn't think twice about it at the time, but in retrospect I wonder if they messed up the name when they printed it the first time, and instead of scrapping the jacket, just covered it up. Never had any issues with it. (Well, the lame was the sandpaper kind that ate my other gear, but the sewn-on name never was a problem.)