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Old 02-24-2005, 10:43 PM   #1
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Fencing Picture Awarded 2nd Place By World Press Photo

http://www.worldpressphoto.org/index...bandwidth=high

Looks like the Men's Team Sabre final

Nice to see our sport is still recognized as an aesthetic and photogenic one... If not TV friendly...
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Old 02-24-2005, 10:51 PM   #2
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I'm thinking it's USA vs France....that is DEFINITELY Keeth Smart on the left (kinda distinctive flunge there...plus the skin tone's dark brown)...Touya on the right, perhaps?
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Old 02-24-2005, 10:54 PM   #3
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Despite being a good photo, I think the one with tiomkin and his display of plyometric ability is far better.
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Old 02-24-2005, 10:57 PM   #4
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I'm thinking it's USA vs France....that is DEFINITELY Keeth Smart on the left (kinda distinctive flunge there...plus the skin tone's dark brown)...Touya on the right, perhaps?
You're right, it is Keeth on the left. On the right it seems like a Russian Fencer. I was confused because I thought Keeth was the Frenchman (I am not sure he'd like to hear that, but those 3 stripes uniforms were ridiculous, every nation had the same, with different colors. ;-)

So it must have been shot during the 3rd place bout
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Old 02-24-2005, 11:00 PM   #5
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DFP, They're two different pictures. Serge Timacheff's shot of Jon Tiomkin is more of a "wow I didn't know this kind of stuff happened in fencing" kind of shot. It's good because it shows our sport in a way that other people might not have seen. This one is nice because it just looks good, it sorta looks more artsy to my eye.

In Timacheff's shot, the position of the fencers isn't as pretty as on this one, I think. But they're both great pics.
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The picture that got first is pretty lame...what exactly is so special about it that makes it better than flying people in spaceman uniforms with swords?
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Hey! That picture was in the Auckland Herald about 2 months ago under "Photos of the Olympics" or something like that, Don't know why it was so late. But yeah, I've seen that pic from a lot of diff angles now

Isn't that pic at the top of this forum ? next to the LPUSA link.
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Old 02-25-2005, 01:10 AM   #8
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You're right, it is Keeth on the left. On the right it seems like a Russian Fencer. I was confused because I thought Keeth was the Frenchman (I am not sure he'd like to hear that, but those 3 stripes uniforms were ridiculous, every nation had the same, with different colors. ;-)

So it must have been shot during the 3rd place bout
I disagree about it being keeth. If you remember, keeth was wearing the blue lame during the olympics. That had to be Ivan Lee.
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Hey! That picture was in the Auckland Herald about 2 months ago under "Photos of the Olympics" or something like that, Don't know why it was so late. But yeah, I've seen that pic from a lot of diff angles now

Isn't that pic at the top of this forum ? next to the LPUSA link.
You have a very good eye for a Kiwi lad.

It absolutely is the same picture, or the same scene shot a millisecond before or later.

Criag can probably tell us exactly who the fencers are.
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That is ivan lee vs pozdniakov. Individual I think.
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It's Lee vs Podz, in the bronze medal team match (noting the dark background, whereas the prelims where they met in the individuals had other events going around in nearby strips (and you don't see the scoring machine behind them here either).

You can tell it's Lee because of the glove (which is not connected to the rest of his lame) and Podz because of his very familiar position.
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Old 02-25-2005, 03:04 AM   #12
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Am I right to assume Podz kicked his behind?
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Also it helps that Ivan is left handed. Funny you should mention being French. At his last Junior Worlds, Ivan bought a lame from France Lame. They were pushing lames with the countries colors on the back. Totally illegal, but they were allowed. He thought he was buying the USA colors, but they were Blue, White and Red.
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Old 02-25-2005, 04:46 AM   #14
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Keeth is also left-handed. But he uses the PBT equipment, which means his lame has that cheapie blue shade (sorry, but that hue is just garish).

And only Ivan has arms so long that the glove and lame part ways when he extends his arm.
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Am I right to assume Podz kicked his behind?
I can't find my notes, but as I remember Podz and Lee basically fenced a 5-5 bout.

Podz kicked butt in the final bout against Keith.

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Yeah, when Keith made #1, everyone was like, "Ooh, shiny!" and kinda ignored Lee, who is a damn good fencer.
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Going by their performances at the Olympics, if I didn't know anything about their previous statistics, I would have assumed that it was Lee who was number one, not Smart...
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Going by their performances at the Olympics, if I didn't know anything about their previous statistics, I would have assumed that it was Lee who was number one, not Smart...
Yeah, but that was the olympics. If you went back about 2 years, Keeth had 2 or 3 world cup gold medals.
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I agree that it's great to see our sport being recognised!

I browsed through some of the other images, did anyone alse see this one?


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I just got to this photo... How awful!
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I agree that it's great to see our sport being recognised!

I browsed through some of the other images, did anyone alse see this one?


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I just got to this photo... How awful!
I find that photo to be extremely funny.
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