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mrbiggs · 02-24-2005, 01:33 PM

About a month ago, I earned a new ranking. (E in epee).

My question is, how long does it usually take the USFA to give me a new card? I would usually be patient, but the problem is that the tournament results were not posted online (or anywhere else), so as far as other tournaments are concerned, I'm still a U. I don't really care in terms of the disadvantage to me, but I don't want the USFA informed that I earned an E05 twice. Or whatever.

So should I keep waiting?

keith · 02-24-2005, 01:35 PM

ah, but all that is important is that you know.

esskreemr · 02-24-2005, 01:40 PM

If it does, just shoot off a letter to someone at the USFA office. They can email you verification of your letter. It's good to follow up if it's taking too long. I earned my "D" rating last year, took 2 months and 3 emails from my side to get the Division Sec to followup.

DHCJr · 02-24-2005, 01:51 PM

One thing you might suggest to your division and others to take note is have your division give out ranking cards. The Orange Coast Division has been doing that for years and the other local divisions are now doing it or looking into it.

All it takes is a card made up ahead of time with the division name and space for fencer name, new ranking, date and signature. It is given right at the end of the tournament with the awards. You keep it and show it, until your new card arrives.

glowstix · 02-24-2005, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DHCJr

One thing you might suggest to your division and others to take note is have your division give out ranking cards. The Orange Coast Division has been doing that for years and the other local divisions are now doing it or looking into it.

All it takes is a card made up ahead of time with the division name and space for fencer name, new ranking, date and signature. It is given right at the end of the tournament with the awards. You keep it and show it, until your new card arrives.

i think thats a good idea. i've had my new rating since november and the USFA are clueless...i keep telling them but they insist i didn't earn the new rating because as far as they know the tournament never took place because division members responsible for doing the change of classification reports are slackers..

oiuyt · 02-24-2005, 02:53 PM

Most of the time the national office gets blamed, but it's usually the local officials who slipped up and either took a rediculously long time to send in results or they failed to do so at all.

Talk to your division officers. Talk to the people who hosted the event. Continue to do so until they actually do their work.

You quickly discover which divisions and which clubs are good at sending updates in and which are.... less so.

-B :)

wbowman · 02-24-2005, 03:41 PM

Oiuyt is right. The responsibility is on the Division to report the ratings change, and the National office has to hear from THEM. (though it's worth sending them an e-mail to alert them that a rating change is coming).
While obviously you need to keep on the tournament organizers about sending the stuff in, I also always have a division official initial my card and note the rating change on it. It won't do you any good for going to a national event, but in our area it's usually recognized for any tournaments that come up before you get your new card.

edew · 02-24-2005, 03:58 PM

Even though I'm no lnoger a division officer, I still send in the results, since I update the Bay Cup results. I used to send them in about once a month. But now, I try to send them in at the beginning of the month and at the middle of the month.

That way, I don't forget or mistakenly resubmit results to USFA (not that that matters too much to them).

noodle · 02-24-2005, 04:04 PM

to make a long story short: it takes at least a month, usually two to three to get your card after all of the proper paperwork gets filled out and things are processed and such.

Elemental · 02-24-2005, 04:30 PM

My friend got his E the first weekend of December and got his new card before X-mas.

I figured it would take extra long for him since his name tends to mess up computer data bases.

foildad · 02-24-2005, 06:40 PM

Our experience is that once the change is submitted to the USFA it takes 2-3 weeks to get your new card. Delays beyond that time are usually due to the tournament organizer or division officer failing to submit the change.

PhineasGage · 02-24-2005, 06:44 PM

2-3 weeks has been my experience too, but it helps to speak politely to a person in authority at the tournament (div officer, whatever) to make sure there's nothing else you need to do to further the process along. Emphasis on "politely".

Elemental · 02-24-2005, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by foildad

Our experience is that once the change is submitted to the USFA it takes 2-3 weeks to get your new card. Delays beyond that time are usually due to the tournament organizer or division officer failing to submit the change.

That explains it. The comp where my friend earned his E was at NW Fencing Center and they are always on top of those things.

mrbiggs · 02-24-2005, 09:42 PM

Okay, thanks a bunch everyone. I was planning on talking to the tournament guys, but it was an out of division tournament, and I'm not going to be up there for like a month, so I wanted to make sure that everything's cool.

fresfisher929 · 02-26-2005, 12:58 AM

i earned my C in october, 20 days later i earned it again, fenced in a div 1 NAC and registered for JO's as a C, all without a card, i'm hoping i'll get one now that i renewed it at JO's.

A Fencer · 02-26-2005, 08:44 PM

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I earned a new ranking. (E in epee).

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I earned my "D" rating last year

Or here's another idea - you could not worry about ratings that are completely worthless and focus on achieving something meaningful.

Inquartata · 02-27-2005, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by A Fencer

Or here's another idea - you could not worry about ratings that are completely worthless and focus on achieving something meaningful.

Meh, this from someone so impressed with his own rating that he uses it in his screen name...

SmokeyTheCat263 · 02-27-2005, 11:31 AM

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Or here's another idea - you could not worry about ratings that are completely worthless and focus on achieving something meaningful.

Well said. I love how newer fencers are petty over such miniscule things (I have a E!! oh yea, well i have a D!!). It's like fighting over the crumbs at the bottom of a bag of potatoe chips. The bag is empty, yet they still need to know who has the bigger crumb. This metaphor might summarize 90% of the posters on fencing.net. Sue me if it offends you.

fencerontheline · 02-27-2005, 06:52 PM

Smokey,
Amen.

mrbiggs · 02-27-2005, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheCat263

Well said. I love how newer fencers are petty over such miniscule things (I have a E!! oh yea, well i have a D!!). It's like fighting over the crumbs at the bottom of a bag of potatoe chips. The bag is empty, yet they still need to know who has the bigger crumb. This metaphor might summarize 90% of the posters on fencing.net. Sue me if it offends you.

I'm sure the fencers at the international level feel pretty much above any fencing accomplishments you have.

"Wow, you have an A! Whoopty-do! I have an Olympic Gold Medal," they might say.

I never really said I give that much about the E, because I don't. I was just wondering what you do when a month goes by without a new card. I don't think it was a stupid question. And if you do, go fuck yourself.