02-23-2005, 10:33 PM
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| Armoury
I am new to fencing and want to learn about Armoury as well. Can anyone suggest a comprehensive book on the subject? | 
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02-23-2005, 11:19 PM
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| Although somewhat outdated on a few things Rudy Volkman's Magnus Libram or big book of fencing is one of the better (and for that matter the only) one I know on the subject. At one time Craig stocked it here at fencing.net through the online store so you might want to check it out.
For other things, Leon Paul has a very nice online section that can teach you all that the average fencer needs to know to keep their weapons running smooth. After that, working with an experianced armourer or checking out the USFA Armourers college (at just incredibly cheap rate for that type of thing) is a great way to go. Some divisions also have skilled Armourers around that sometimes give clinics and such. If you happen to live near Charlottesville VA I have about a weeks backlog of work and would be happy to teach you all you want in exchange for slave... err that is, free labor and assistance... 
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02-24-2005, 12:27 AM
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| Also, once you learn the basics, you can teach yourself alot of stuff. Most of the tricks I know I figured out while trying to fix my own equipment. | |
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02-24-2005, 02:29 AM
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Originally Posted by mrbiggs Also, once you learn the basics, you can teach yourself alot of stuff. Most of the tricks I know I figured out while trying to fix my own equipment. | Ain't THAT the truth!
However...one thing I've found since I started armoring more heavily were things that dou would not think of only learning by experience...like differances in certain gear from year to year or other very subtle things. I've learned a great deal from Donald Clinton... | 
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02-24-2005, 09:31 AM
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| The best way to learn armory skills is under fire. You'll learn how to rewire a blade the night before a tournament when you need that blade. You'll learn it.
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02-24-2005, 10:10 AM
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| Actually I would say the best way is with a good teacher in a structured environment. The fact that most of us learn "under fire" as it were does not mean that is the best way.
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02-24-2005, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by CvilleFencer Actually I would say the best way is with a good teacher in a structured environment. The fact that most of us learn "under fire" as it were does not mean that is the best way. | No....but it's probably the most frequent... | |
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02-24-2005, 11:54 AM
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| I would have to agree with CvilleFencer. When it comes to the late afternoon at most major tournaments you have time to learn. For example, someone brings up a weapon to check or a blade to rewire. How many know how to check what to look for on a blade to get one to last a long time? You have time to open up a machine or reel and find out how they work and what to look for.
I will give an example from last week. A fencer came up with a new blade they had bought from a vendor and the wire was coming out. Considering how much dirt and greese was under the glue, it is not surprising. We had time to talk to the fencer what to do when they rewire. Yes there is one good thing about being under pressure and not having someone to show you some tricks, you will get a lot of practice, over and over.
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02-24-2005, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DHCJr I would have to agree with CvilleFencer. When it comes to the late afternoon at most major tournaments you have time to learn. For example, someone brings up a weapon to check or a blade to rewire. How many know how to check what to look for on a blade to get one to last a long time? You have time to open up a machine or reel and find out how they work and what to look for.
I will give an example from last week. A fencer came up with a new blade they had bought from a vendor and the wire was coming out. Considering how much dirt and greese was under the glue, it is not surprising. We had time to talk to the fencer what to do when they rewire. Yes there is one good thing about being under pressure and not having someone to show you some tricks, you will get a lot of practice, over and over. | And it wasn't a blade I'd done...I always get rid of the grease before tossing new blades in the sales tube or wiring them up.
The blade in question wasn't just a little dirty...it looked like it had never had the grease cut out of it. | |
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