Interchanging bodycord parts

[CalFencer]

Hi,

Can I place a LP bayonet replacement plub into an Ulhmann bayonet bodycord?

Also, what happened to this group -- where did all the folks go?

Thanks,
Cal

[Harold Buck]

In article <MpgRd.50852$Th1.13806@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"CalFencer" <ehlee_74@yahoo.net> wrote:

>
> Can I place a LP bayonet replacement plub into an Ulhmann bayonet bodycord?
>
> Also, what happened to this group -- where did all the folks go?
>


Usenet in general is becoming less popular. A lot of people read

http://www.fencing101.com/vb/index.php?

which has 5400 members.


--Harold Buck


"I used to rock and roll all night,
and party every day.
Then it was every other day. . . ."
-Homer J. Simpson

[R. Mattes]

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 06:28:18 -0500, Harold Buck wrote:

> In article <MpgRd.50852$Th1.13806@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> "CalFencer" <ehlee_74@yahoo.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Can I place a LP bayonet replacement plub into an Ulhmann bayonet bodycord?
>>
>> Also, what happened to this group -- where did all the folks go?
>>
>
>
> Usenet in general is becoming less popular. A lot of people read
>
> http://www.fencing101.com/vb/index.php?
>
> which has 5400 members.

In what way is this relevant to the OP's question?
Web-boards might be nice for people whose computer experience never
exeeds web browsing but i personally find the text editing "features" of
the average browser rather, erm, anoying.
A more political point: what happens if the owners of fencing101 stop
supporting the site? What'll happen to all the knowledge collected there?


Ralf Mattes

To the OP: unfortunately i'm not too familiar with bayonet equipment
(which i regret) but i doubt that the "non-public" parts are compatible ....


> --Harold Buck
>
>
> "I used to rock and roll all night,
> and party every day.
> Then it was every other day. . . ."
> -Homer J. Simpson

[Andreas Färber]

"Harold Buck" <no_one_knows@comcast.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:no_one_knows-946F80.06281818022005@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> Usenet in general is becoming less popular. A lot of people read
>
> http://www.fencing101.com/vb/index.php?
>
> which has 5400 members.

....and escrime-info.com has 4360 members, fechten.de 3407 members,
fencingforum.com 1458, schermanet.it 1441, esgrimamex.com 510, fencing.se
257, ... Not counting duplicate members, this makes up to 10000 members not
reading Fencing.net. *g* But all in all this is pointless.

rec.sport.fencing is mirrored to ISP servers worldwide as a single Usenet
place of fencing related discussion.
And concerning the original question: Folks are still here but not
necessarily writing, while following the amusing fencing discussions which
have taken place over the last years. Keep it up!

Andreas

[armouress]

CalFencer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can I place a LP bayonet replacement plub into an Ulhmann bayonet
bodycord?
>
<snip>

> Thanks,
> Cal

To answer your original question... yes... : )

Debbie B.

[CalFencer]

Thanks for the responses. When I test the bodycord using a mini-tester, the
tester shows the cord works fine but when I plug the cord into a reel,
problems occur such as the off target light turns on. I suppose the problem
could lie with the reel and I'll test the cord on another machine.

One last thing, old timers at my club wax nostaligia about my using bayonet
plugs. They make it seem that the bayonet system is older than the 2 prong
one -- is that correct?

Cal








"armouress" <sandnsmom@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1108740628.062403.135600@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> CalFencer wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can I place a LP bayonet replacement plub into an Ulhmann bayonet
> bodycord?
> >
> <snip>
>
> > Thanks,
> > Cal
>
> To answer your original question... yes... : )
>
> Debbie B.
>

[Harold Buck]

In article <pan.2005.02.18.13.15.38.817983@mh-freiburg.de>,
"R. Mattes" <rm@mh-freiburg.de> wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 06:28:18 -0500, Harold Buck wrote:
>
> > In article <MpgRd.50852$Th1.13806@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> > "CalFencer" <ehlee_74@yahoo.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Can I place a LP bayonet replacement plub into an Ulhmann bayonet bodycord?
> >>
> >> Also, what happened to this group -- where did all the folks go?
> >>
> >
> >
> > Usenet in general is becoming less popular. A lot of people read
> >
> > http://www.fencing101.com/vb/index.php?
> >
> > which has 5400 members.
>
> In what way is this relevant to the OP's question?


It offers a possible answer to "Where did all the folks go?"

--Harold Buck


"I used to rock and roll all night,
and party every day.
Then it was every other day. . . ."
-Homer J. Simpson

[Tim Schofield]

In article <jKqRd.236973$w62.58376@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
CalFencer <ehlee_74@yahoo.net> writes
>Thanks for the responses. When I test the bodycord using a mini-tester, the
>tester shows the cord works fine but when I plug the cord into a reel,
>problems occur such as the off target light turns on. I suppose the problem
>could lie with the reel and I'll test the cord on another machine.

Sensible first step. It could also be that the three-pin plug on the
bodywire isn't a good fit into the socket on that particular reel. Also
watch out for breaks in the body wire that only become apparent when the
wire is under tension.

>
>One last thing, old timers at my club wax nostaligia about my using bayonet
>plugs. They make it seem that the bayonet system is older than the 2 prong
>one -- is that correct?

Don't know there - I think they both go over 40 years back...

>
>Cal
>
[snip]
>"armouress" <sandnsmom@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:1108740628.062403.135600@g14g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
>>
>> CalFencer wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Can I place a LP bayonet replacement plub into an Ulhmann bayonet
>> bodycord?
>> >
>> <snip>
>>
>> > Thanks,
>> > Cal
>>
>> To answer your original question... yes... : )
>>
>> Debbie B.
>>
>
>

--
Tim S.

[Dirk Goldgar]

"CalFencer" <ehlee_74@yahoo.net> wrote in message
news:jKqRd.236973$w62.58376@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net
> Thanks for the responses. When I test the bodycord using a
> mini-tester, the tester shows the cord works fine but when I plug the
> cord into a reel, problems occur such as the off target light turns
> on. I suppose the problem could lie with the reel and I'll test the
> cord on another machine.

Is your mini-tester one that is designed for testing body cords, or are
you just testing each line for continuity using an ohmmeter? If you're
just testing each line for continuity and resistance, it may be that
your body cord is cross-wired. Each of the "weapon" lines (as opposed
to the lamé line) has to go to a specific pin on the plug; they aren't
interchangeable.

> One last thing, old timers at my club wax nostaligia about my using
> bayonet plugs. They make it seem that the bayonet system is older
> than the 2 prong one -- is that correct?

I don't know which is older. I don't see anything "old-fashioned" about
bayonet plugs, though. Most fencers at my salle use them.

--

Dirk Goldgar

(to reply via e-mail, remove NOSPAM from address)

[Cal]

I checked the length of the body cord and found a break in the B wire near
the three prong plug side -- lucky break for me. The wire looked as if it
was cut -- which I am fairly sure it wasn't. Do body cord wires break that
cleanly, i.e. as if it as been cut through the plastic sheathing? I doubt it
and suppose it could have been a small defect in the cord that grew larger
as I tugged on the wires (I know I shouldn't) to unplug myself from the
reel.




"Tim Schofield" <tim@foxtree.co.uk> wrote in message
news3RkE1CtZRGCFAE1@oaktree.mail.foxtree.co.uk...
> In article <jKqRd.236973$w62.58376@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> CalFencer <ehlee_74@yahoo.net> writes
> >Thanks for the responses. When I test the bodycord using a mini-tester,
the
> >tester shows the cord works fine but when I plug the cord into a reel,
> >problems occur such as the off target light turns on. I suppose the
problem
> >could lie with the reel and I'll test the cord on another machine.
>
> Sensible first step. It could also be that the three-pin plug on the
> bodywire isn't a good fit into the socket on that particular reel. Also
> watch out for breaks in the body wire that only become apparent when the
> wire is under tension.
>
> >
> >One last thing, old timers at my club wax nostaligia about my using
bayonet
> >plugs. They make it seem that the bayonet system is older than the 2
prong
> >one -- is that correct?
>
> Don't know there - I think they both go over 40 years back...
>
> >
> >Cal
> >
> [snip]
> >"armouress" <sandnsmom@aol.com> wrote in message
> >news:1108740628.062403.135600@g14g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
> >>
> >> CalFencer wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > Can I place a LP bayonet replacement plub into an Ulhmann bayonet
> >> bodycord?
> >> >
> >> <snip>
> >>
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Cal
> >>
> >> To answer your original question... yes... : )
> >>
> >> Debbie B.
> >>
> >
> >
>
> --
> Tim S.

[Joe Hoffman]

Body wires can break very cleanly. All it takes is one
opponent who misjudged the distance at the beginning of
a beat attack. Happens a lot to left-handers. Or, I
presume, to right-handers with a lot of lefties in their
neighborhood.

Joe

Cal wrote:

> I checked the length of the body cord and found a break in the B wire near
> the three prong plug side -- lucky break for me. The wire looked as if it
> was cut -- which I am fairly sure it wasn't. Do body cord wires break that
> cleanly, i.e. as if it as been cut through the plastic sheathing? I doubt it
> and suppose it could have been a small defect in the cord that grew larger
> as I tugged on the wires (I know I shouldn't) to unplug myself from the
> reel.
>
>
>
>
> "Tim Schofield" <tim@foxtree.co.uk> wrote in message
> news3RkE1CtZRGCFAE1@oaktree.mail.foxtree.co.uk...
>
>>In article <jKqRd.236973$w62.58376@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
>>CalFencer <ehlee_74@yahoo.net> writes
>>
>>>Thanks for the responses. When I test the bodycord using a mini-tester,
>
> the
>
>>>tester shows the cord works fine but when I plug the cord into a reel,
>>>problems occur such as the off target light turns on. I suppose the
>
> problem
>
>>>could lie with the reel and I'll test the cord on another machine.
>>
>>Sensible first step. It could also be that the three-pin plug on the
>>bodywire isn't a good fit into the socket on that particular reel. Also
>>watch out for breaks in the body wire that only become apparent when the
>>wire is under tension.
>>
>>
>>>One last thing, old timers at my club wax nostaligia about my using
>
> bayonet
>
>>>plugs. They make it seem that the bayonet system is older than the 2
>
> prong
>
>>>one -- is that correct?
>>
>>Don't know there - I think they both go over 40 years back...
>>
>>
>>>Cal
>>>
>>
>>[snip]
>>
>>>"armouress" <sandnsmom@aol.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1108740628.062403.135600@g14g2000cwa.googl egroups.com...
>>>
>>>>CalFencer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>Can I place a LP bayonet replacement plub into an Ulhmann bayonet
>>>>
>>>>bodycord?
>>>>
>>>><snip>
>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Cal
>>>>
>>>>To answer your original question... yes... : )
>>>>
>>>>Debbie B.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Tim S.
>
>
>

[DHCJr]

I would like to add my comments to two of the questions above. First can you interchange the Leon Paul and the Uhlmann version, yes, But. They are not made to the same specifications, First Leon Paul has been around for a long while, about 45 years, more years then metric in Great Britian. The Leon Paul connectors are made to English measurements, while the Uhlmann are made to metric measurements. The long end is greater by slightly over 1/10 mm, which may not sound like much, but you can have trouble getting an Uhlmann cord in and out of a Leon Paul and the reverse can sometime pop out.

On which is older, the Bayonet, but I am not talking about the Leon Paul. At the '56 Olympics, the Foils and bodycords were supplied to the fencers. All of them were Carmimmari. Both the Leon Paul and the 2-prong came around the same time in the late 50's.