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Old 02-21-2005, 07:00 PM   #1
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Looking for a sword

Hi all,
I am looking for a smallsword, I heard that coldsteel offer some but I doubt
about the quality of the product. I never purchased anything on the net as I
don't really thrust what I havn't had the chance to see for myself. And
where I am from it's very hard to find a sword that has better to do than
hanging on a wall and not staring to much in case it breaks. I am not really
knowledgable about quality products as I havn't the chance to hold many
quality swords. I hope someone can help me.




 
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Old 02-21-2005, 07:00 PM   #2
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"Trim Plus Expert" <trimplus@bellnet.ca> wrote in message
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> [...] I don't really thrust what I havn't had the chance to
> see for myself.


I think "thrust" is a typo, but I still like it. <g>

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Old 02-21-2005, 07:00 PM   #3
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Re: Looking for a sword

In rec.sport.fencing on Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:42:24 -0400
Trim Plus Expert <trimplus@bellnet.ca> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I am looking for a smallsword, I heard that coldsteel offer some but I doubt
> about the quality of the product. I never purchased anything on the net as I
> don't really thrust what I havn't had the chance to see for myself. And
> where I am from it's very hard to find a sword that has better to do than
> hanging on a wall and not staring to much in case it breaks. I am not really
> knowledgable about quality products as I havn't the chance to hold many
> quality swords. I hope someone can help me.


How much money do you have, and what do you want to do with the sword?

If you want to fence with it, then get one made for that, which means
usually a double-wide epee with smallsword furniture.

You could email Maestro Ramon Martinez
(http://www.martinez-destreza.com) and ask what he uses to teach
smallsword. There's also links to suppliers there, you can find what
they've got.

As far as makers go, if you can't afford custom, then you can't really
go wrong with Del Tin. Hanwei/PaulChen has got a lot better in the last
couple of years, and is considerably cheaper than Del Tin. I think
Darkwood have some early smallsword furniture, and you could mount it on
one of the short Del Tin rapier blades for something reasonably close to
late 16thC early 17th smallsword.

Zebee
 
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Old 02-21-2005, 07:00 PM   #4
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Re: Looking for a sword

Thanx Zebee,
I would like a sharp one, not a training weapon. However I need a training
one to



"Zebee Johnstone" <zebee@zip.com.au> a écrit dans le message de
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> In rec.sport.fencing on Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:42:24 -0400
> Trim Plus Expert <trimplus@bellnet.ca> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I am looking for a smallsword, I heard that coldsteel offer some but I

doubt
> > about the quality of the product. I never purchased anything on the net

as I
> > don't really thrust what I havn't had the chance to see for myself. And
> > where I am from it's very hard to find a sword that has better to do

than
> > hanging on a wall and not staring to much in case it breaks. I am not

really
> > knowledgable about quality products as I havn't the chance to hold many
> > quality swords. I hope someone can help me.

>
> How much money do you have, and what do you want to do with the sword?
>
> If you want to fence with it, then get one made for that, which means
> usually a double-wide epee with smallsword furniture.
>
> You could email Maestro Ramon Martinez
> (http://www.martinez-destreza.com) and ask what he uses to teach
> smallsword. There's also links to suppliers there, you can find what
> they've got.
>
> As far as makers go, if you can't afford custom, then you can't really
> go wrong with Del Tin. Hanwei/PaulChen has got a lot better in the last
> couple of years, and is considerably cheaper than Del Tin. I think
> Darkwood have some early smallsword furniture, and you could mount it on
> one of the short Del Tin rapier blades for something reasonably close to
> late 16thC early 17th smallsword.
>
> Zebee



 
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Old 02-21-2005, 07:00 PM   #5
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In rec.sport.fencing on Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:03:49 -0400
Trim Plus Expert <trimplus@bellnet.ca> wrote:
> Thanx Zebee,
> I would like a sharp one, not a training weapon. However I need a training
> one to
>


Boils down to money. Cold Steel, people like that, they are doing mass
produced wall hangers.

You want good, you pay for it...

http://www.deltin.it/ does a French smallsword,
http://www.myarmoury.com/reviews.html might be helpful

You should probably also ask in the appropriate forum at
www.swordforum.com

Zebee
 
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Old 02-21-2005, 07:00 PM   #6
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Trim Plus Expert wrote:
> Hi all,
> I am looking for a smallsword, I heard that coldsteel offer some but I doubt
> about the quality of the product. I never purchased anything on the net as I
> don't really thrust what I havn't had the chance to see for myself. And
> where I am from it's very hard to find a sword that has better to do than
> hanging on a wall and not staring to much in case it breaks. I am not really
> knowledgable about quality products as I havn't the chance to hold many
> quality swords. I hope someone can help me.
>


I can't determine if you are wanting an antique or
modern. If you want the real thing then here is a URL

http://www.wilkinson-swords.co.uk/

These are military and while intended for show are
fine quality weapons. I have an older one (prior to WWI
vintage). In a moment of idiocy I took it and bent it
double (not recommended practice), released it and
it sprung out straight as ever.

I paid a little over US $100. for the one I have. And I
believe you can still find them in the UK in various states
of maintenance. Point is that they are still manufactured
to the highest standards just as if they were to be used.

But as a fencer they are "heavy" weapons suitable for young
manly military types. And with advancing years I prefer an epee.

J.




 
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Old 02-21-2005, 07:00 PM   #7
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Trim Plus Expert wrote:
> Hi all,
> I am looking for a smallsword, I heard that coldsteel offer some but I doubt
> about the quality of the product.


I don't know about the quality of coldsteel, but I here is one you
certaintly DON'T want to buy:

https://home.comcast.net/~bithabus/qvcknife.mpeg

Aaron Caba

 
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Old 02-21-2005, 07:00 PM   #8
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Re: Looking for a sword

Aaron Caba wrote:
>
>
> Trim Plus Expert wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I am looking for a smallsword, I heard that coldsteel offer some but I
>> doubt
>> about the quality of the product.

>
>
> I don't know about the quality of coldsteel, but I here is one you
> certaintly DON'T want to buy:
>
> https://home.comcast.net/~bithabus/qvcknife.mpeg
>
> Aaron Caba
>


THAT IS JUST TOO FUNNY!!!
US $44.95 was that the price?? And it comes
with a lifetime warranty. Whose lifetime?
Certainly not the buyer's.

Took viewing a couple of times to see the
details. Wish the guy hadn't hidden behind
the counter. Be curious to know if he ever
banged weapons on the counter top like that again.
Especially "cheap" ones.

J.
 
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Old 02-21-2005, 07:00 PM   #9
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"Jonathan Jefferies" <jonathanjefferies@alamedanet.net> wrote in message
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> Aaron Caba wrote:
> >
> >
> > Trim Plus Expert wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >> I am looking for a smallsword, I heard that coldsteel offer some but I
> >> doubt
> >> about the quality of the product.

> >
> >
> > I don't know about the quality of coldsteel, but I here is one you
> > certaintly DON'T want to buy:
> >
> > https://home.comcast.net/~bithabus/qvcknife.mpeg
> >
> > Aaron Caba
> >

>
> THAT IS JUST TOO FUNNY!!!
> US $44.95 was that the price?? And it comes
> with a lifetime warranty. Whose lifetime?
> Certainly not the buyer's.


Perhaps they're counting on the buyers trying that too. LOL!

>
> Took viewing a couple of times to see the
> details. Wish the guy hadn't hidden behind
> the counter. Be curious to know if he ever
> banged weapons on the counter top like that again.
> Especially "cheap" ones.
>
> J.



 
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