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Old 02-21-2005, 03:28 PM   #1
Harold Buck
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Question about time expiring

In my FOC seminar notes, I have the following:

"If there's a halt from the timekeeper, a light that goes on after the
halt does NOT count.

Example:

Attack from A
Parry from B
Remise from A lands valid
Halt from timekeeper as time expires
Riposte from B lands

In this case, the riposte from B does not count."

What is not clear to me is if this makes the remise good or not. I'm
thinking that, on a machine that ties the lights to the timer--I think
they have those in big competitions--there would be only one light, so
you'd have to award it, but I don't really know.

--Harold Buck


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and party every day.
Then it was every other day. . . ."
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Old 02-21-2005, 03:28 PM   #2
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Re: Question about time expiring

The end of time is exactly that. Nothing occurs after the end of time.

"Harold Buck" <no_one_knows@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:no_one_knows-D39D39.16503419032004@comcast.ash.giganews.com...
> In my FOC seminar notes, I have the following:
>
> "If there's a halt from the timekeeper, a light that goes on after the
> halt does NOT count.
>
> Example:
>
> Attack from A
> Parry from B
> Remise from A lands valid
> Halt from timekeeper as time expires
> Riposte from B lands
>
> In this case, the riposte from B does not count."
>
> What is not clear to me is if this makes the remise good or not. I'm
> thinking that, on a machine that ties the lights to the timer--I think
> they have those in big competitions--there would be only one light, so
> you'd have to award it, but I don't really know.
>
> --Harold Buck
>
>
> "I used to rock and roll all night,
> and party every day.
> Then it was every other day. . . ."
> -Homer J. Simpson



 
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Old 02-21-2005, 03:28 PM   #3
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Re: Question about time expiring

In article <105nbh3cdkl6p5d@corp.supernews.com>,
"Epee Guy" <epeeguy@spamnot.apk.net> wrote:

> The end of time is exactly that. Nothing occurs after the end of time.
>



You're either:

A) Being cute and philosophical, which is fine, but not helpful

or

B) Trying to answer my question.

But if it's B, you haven't answered it, since the remise lands BEFORE
time expires.

--Harold Buck


"I used to rock and roll all night,
and party every day.
Then it was every other day. . . ."
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Old 02-21-2005, 03:28 PM   #4
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Re: Question about time expiring

Harold,

The new scoring machines that have the timer function close out any hit
after the time expires. This is in accordance with the rules. If I have a
timekeeper, I always instruct them to position themselves so that they can
see the lights and let me know whether any lights happened before time
actually ran out, rather than when they get the word out of their mouth.
There is often about a half second delay between the timeout and the word.

Regards,
Chris


"Harold Buck" <no_one_knows@attbi.com> wrote in message
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> In article <105nbh3cdkl6p5d@corp.supernews.com>,
> "Epee Guy" <epeeguy@spamnot.apk.net> wrote:
>
> > The end of time is exactly that. Nothing occurs after the end of time.
> >

>
>
> You're either:
>
> A) Being cute and philosophical, which is fine, but not helpful
>
> or
>
> B) Trying to answer my question.
>
> But if it's B, you haven't answered it, since the remise lands BEFORE
> time expires.
>
> --Harold Buck
>
>
> "I used to rock and roll all night,
> and party every day.
> Then it was every other day. . . ."
> -Homer J. Simpson



 
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Old 02-21-2005, 03:28 PM   #5
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Re: Question about time expiring

Harold Buck wrote:

>But if it's B, you haven't answered it, since the remise lands BEFORE
>time expires.
>
>

For me, the repose is the only thing that counts since it happened
before the expiration of time. The remise is 'out of time' and doesn't
count.

Here's one for you: Fencer A begins a fleche towards Fencer B. Just
before A's point lands, time expires so A's touch is just after time.
Does it count and why?

 
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Old 02-21-2005, 03:28 PM   #6
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In article <c3ki3p$c12$1@news.monmouth.com>,
Amy & Joseph Kormann <ajkormann@monmouth.com> wrote:

> Harold Buck wrote:
>
> >But if it's B, you haven't answered it, since the remise lands BEFORE
> >time expires.
> >
> >

> For me, the repose is the only thing that counts since it happened
> before the expiration of time. The remise is 'out of time' and doesn't
> count.
>
> Here's one for you: Fencer A begins a fleche towards Fencer B. Just
> before A's point lands, time expires so A's touch is just after time.
> Does it count and why?



No, it doesn't count, because nothing can score after time expires.

--Harold Buck


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Then it was every other day. . . ."
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