02-08-2005, 09:23 AM
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#1 | | Senior Member
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| tips, tips and more tips
We have a jar in my club where everyone throws their epee tips. Grrrrrr. They are all sizes, shapes, and such. I know how to tell the French tips from the German, but I can't tell the different types of German: you know, the imitations. Can someone help me before I lose my mind? | 
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02-08-2005, 12:28 PM
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#2 | | Fencing Expert
Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Pennsauken, NJ
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| French and German epee tips are interchangable. Well, mostly. One thing to note is that the screws that LP makes (LP tips are also interchangable with F/G with the exception I'm about to mention) are made for a class A (or class 1, or something similar) fit, which means that the ends of the threads come to a sharp point rather than a slightly rounded edge. This results in a better hold on the tip. But once a tip has been used with screws like this the French/German screws (which don't have this feature) will not be able to hold it sufficiently. Get a tip that's slightly stripped and LP screws can allow you to continue using it for a while. Get a tip that's used LP screws and they better be all that you use in it.
Interchangable is, as with some many other fencing things, not an absolute. Heck, various year's editions of prieur tips (at least for foil, if not for epee) aren't interchangable, despite being manufacturer to the same "standards".
-B :)
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02-08-2005, 03:16 PM
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#3 | | Senior Member
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| Remise.... you've pointed out a problem I'm having in my personal equipment. I have a selection of German, French, and "German make". French v. German TIPS I can tell appart, but not the barrels. Which presents a problem. As to the only differences I can find in the "german make" and "german" are that the tips that exhibit more wear in the long run are often the imitations. They tend to take a beating poorly. I wish I could be more help.
The reason I try not to buy "German make" tips is that the metal seems to be softer- takes more dents and dings- and consequently bugger up faster. | |
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02-08-2005, 08:15 PM
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#4 | | Fencing Expert
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| With practice you can see whether or not the holes in the barrel are threaded. If they are it's German, if they're not it's French.
Or you could try screwing a German screw into it and see if it holds (with no tip).
-B :)
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02-08-2005, 11:06 PM
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#5 | | Armorer
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| Oiuyt, I don't think that will help Myra True as she is a Epeeist. You are talking about Foil barrels.
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02-08-2005, 11:18 PM
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#6 | | Senior Member
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| Which is strange, because Brad DID give an epee response first! | |
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