02-05-2005, 10:15 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Orange County, California
Posts: 775
| Good Tournament/Bad Tournament
I came away from my last competition feeling pretty good. Had nothing to do with my results, which have been better at some tourneys, worse at others. So I thought I'd see what the rest of y'all think makes a tournament good or bad. In my case:  Good Tournament: I leave the venue wondering how soon I can do this again.  Bad Tournament: I leave the venue wondering how much my fencing gear would fetch on eBay.
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02-05-2005, 10:32 PM
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#2 | | Just Joined
Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Virginia
Posts: 1
| Good Tournament: I leave with a rating I wasn't expecting
Bad Tournament: I leave with more broken weapons than points scored | |
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02-06-2005, 12:51 AM
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#3 | | Member
Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North Myrtle Beach, SC, USA
Posts: 86
| Good Tournament: My friends among the spectators say "Dude!"
Bad Tournament: My friends among the spectators say "Dude?"
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02-06-2005, 01:41 AM
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#4 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: calgary,ab,canada
Posts: 2,418
| Good Tournament: top 8 finish where quality fencers were present.
Bad Tournament: not learning anything from the defeat or coming away second guessing. | |
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02-06-2005, 01:47 AM
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#5 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Charlottesville VA
Posts: 3,108
| Good Tournament: I did well against stronger fencers and with any luck had a top 8 finish.
Bad Tournament: I somehow wound up fencing foil.
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Just another lost soul saved by the (hit) First Church of EPEE!
Bona Na Croin. "Neither Collar nor Crown"
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02-06-2005, 02:27 AM
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#6 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Chicago
Posts: 462
| Good Tournament: I can't lift my arm because I'm too tired from fencing all day.
Bad Tournament: I can't lift my arm because I have a major shoulder injury. | |
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02-06-2005, 03:39 AM
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#7 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 5,041
| Good Tournament: I come home with something shiny.
Bad Tournament: I don't come home at all... | |
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02-06-2005, 05:47 PM
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#8 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wokingham, United Kingdom
Posts: 581
| Good tournament: if/after losing, you feel that you enjoyed your day, and that you didn't lose any matches but instead that your opponents won them. You think you can do better, so you're hungry for more...
Bad tournament: you wonder just why you got up so damn early that morning... | |
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02-06-2005, 05:51 PM
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#9 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 707
| Good foil tournament:
Uses the official timings
Bad foilepee tournament:
Uses the test timings | |
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02-06-2005, 06:02 PM
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#10 | | Scavenger
Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 4,674
| Good tournament: At least two of the following: Still upright and capable of walking. Capable of coherent speech. Did not fence like a shackled donkey, or have full-scale meltdown. Managed to get touches on someone younger, faster, and stronger than me, to their unflattering surprise and dismay. Got opponent to argue with referee because it is clearly impossible that I could ever win bout, so calls must be bad.
Bad tournament: At least two of the following: Lost my temper. Lost my shoes/jacket/favorite weapon/glasses. Lost my balance repeatedly. Lost to someone I can and should beat, on the same action, repeatedly. Had serious pain, and had to withdraw.
REALLY good tournament: Either scored touches which caused people to say, "Whoa!" or "How did she do that?" or earned medal of some sort. Any sort. Give me medal, I go home happy.
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it is all looking very Grave, I feel it is the Clam before the Storm and no mistake
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02-06-2005, 06:02 PM
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#11 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 5,563
| Good tournament: I beat all the lower seeded people I fence against. I learn something from my defeat.
Good tournament: I learn something
Bad tournament: I lose to a lower seed. I learn nothing from my defeat.
Bad tournament: I learn nothing.
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"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. And from this side only! The flight of a half-man, half-bird. Dinosaurs nuzzling their young in pastures where strip malls should be. Cookies on dowels. All those moment, lost in time. Gone, like eggs off a hooker's stomach. Time to die" -Phil Ken Sebben
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02-06-2005, 06:08 PM
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#12 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 321
| Good Tournament: Coach says somewhere along the way, "good job!" Bad Tournament: Coach shrugs shoulders. Really Bad Tournament: Coach no where to be found.
It is never about win or lose. It is always about quality. | |
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02-06-2005, 08:46 PM
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#13 | | Just Joined
Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: USA
Posts: 19
| Good Tournament: I am tired and sore and profusely dripping. Fencing was appropriate for the weapon being held. I had a coherent idea of what I was doing and why and could recognize errors and adapt.
Bad Tournament: I still have the energy to go run a few miles. Forgot about right of way or didn't utilize the lack thereof. Everything degenerated into bad reflexes or random flailing. Multiple consecutive touches were scored againt me in the exact same manner.
Really Bad Tournament: (entry fee / touches scored) ≥ $3/touch
Unfortunately, my fitness level remains far above my fencing ability, and I'm considering adding a third weapon to the thoroughly confused mass that is my brain. | |
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02-06-2005, 09:05 PM
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#14 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 491
| Good Tournament: Being asked for urine sample
Bad Tournament: Being asked for insurance details. | |
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02-07-2005, 12:31 AM
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#15 | | Question Game Queen
Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Southern Canadia
Posts: 15,718
| Good tournament: I feel like I was completely on form, and if/when I lost, it wasn't due to lack of concentration or injury.
Bad tournament: My opponent kept doing the same thing but I couldn't get around it, and lose due to frustration. | |
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02-07-2005, 02:56 AM
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#16 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Australia - various
Posts: 2,756
| Good tournament: I finish and feel satified, knowing I did my best and hopefully learnt something in the long run. Hopefully end up with a pweety medal. I am smiling or at least philosophical about my loss.
Bad tournament: I lose stupidly, I start crying, get frustrated, lose concentration, ring my mother on my cell ranting about my inability to move/hit a mack truck at low speed etc etc.
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02-08-2005, 06:43 PM
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#17 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Alberta, Canada
Posts: 363
| Good: Coach says "You did well"
Bad: You find your coach talking to the head of the local fencing organization asking if he can take you off the club's member list... 
Good: You met the goals you set (eg:I will score a touche in every bout, and I will win at least one bout.) 
Bad: You rationalize your failing to meet any of you objectives by saying "Well, I didn't keep my New Year's resolution, either!"
Good: You fence well, the refs are capaple of calling a parry a parry, and you have no catastrophic equipment failures.
Bad: Coach is covering his eyes to avoid seeing you fence, the ref shows up strip side with a seeing eye dog, and the vendors a seriously debating awarding you a trophy for doubling their year's profits.
Good: You are reluctant to leave the venue because you fenced so well, but have little choice as your teammates are carring you out on their shoulders singing "Hail the conquering hero" 
Bad: When you approach a group of teammates to tell them you are going, they suddenly stop laughing and look guilty.
Good: You come home after a top eight finish, and have beaten you arch-rival.
Bad: DFL. Arch-rival offers to coach you in spare time. Out of sympathy.
Good: You leave able to walk, and are only marginally sore the following day.
Bad: You leave surrounded by paramedics and as you black out you hear a perimedic say "We're losing her (him)"
Good: You enjoyed yourself!
Bad: You secretly consider smoking pot-it MUST be cheaper and less stressful than fencing!  
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Some people are like slinkys. They serve no useful purpose, but it sure feels good when you push them down the stairs.
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02-08-2005, 07:24 PM
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#18 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: CA, SF Bay Area
Posts: 109
| Good Tournament: You get to fence and learn quite a bit.
Bad Tournament: You drive 400 miles, spend money you don't have on a hotel and they cancel the pools so you only get to fence one DE bout... against an All American and get jobbed because nobody sees your amazing stop cuts [pre-electric sabre]. (So, how many of you were at '87 PCCs?)
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Ty
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02-09-2005, 12:35 AM
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#19 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hamilton, ON
Posts: 219
| Good Tournament: Come home with a decent ranking and satisfied with how I fenced.
Bad Tournament: Come home frustrated due to fencing poorly/bad judges/whatever. | |
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02-09-2005, 07:23 AM
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#20 | | Member
Join Date: May 2004 Location: Austin,TX
Posts: 94
| good tournament: fenced enough to be tired, achieved my goals for that tournament, whatever they may be( make it past 2nd round of DEs lately), learned something/leave with ideas on what to train this week
bad tournament: cannot seem to focus, perform to what i know is below my ability, come away angry
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