Gay Marriage Legislation in Canada

[jBirch]

Hey All,

Here's the text of the proposed ammendments to Canadian Law in order to legalise same-sex marriage. What do you all think?

http://www.parl.gc.ca/legisinfo/inde...381&List=toc-1

[keith]

you probably want to put in the important bit;

NOW, THEREFORE, Her Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate and House of Commons of Canada, enacts as follows:

1. This Act may be cited as the Civil Marriage Act.

2. Marriage, for civil purposes, is the lawful union of two persons to the exclusion of all others.

3. It is recognized that officials of religious groups are free to refuse to perform marriages that are not in accordance with their religious beliefs.

4. For greater certainty, a marriage is not void or voidable by reason only that the spouses are of the same sex.


I am yet to read the rest of the Bill, maybe tomorrow.

[keith]

I do find it quaint that the canadian government still acts on the wishes of dear ol'Lizzy.

[cornflower]

Originally Posted by keith

I do find it quaint that the canadian government still acts on the wishes of dear ol'Lizzy.

I'm not quite sure I follow. I think would have to disagree... it's been a while since Law 12 so my information may be inaccurate, but I believe that the Queen has absolutely no role in our government except to act as a figurehead. I am not sure, but the House of Commons and the Senate draws up bills/legislations, then the Queen has to sign it to have it passed and made official. From what I gather, this is merely ceremonial and serves no real purpose. I don't think she has ever turned down a signature, yet. This makes me want to do some research into our legal system, tonight... hmmm...

[jBirch]

Originally Posted by cornflower

I'm not quite sure I follow. I think would have to disagree... it's been a while since Law 12 so my information may be inaccurate, but I believe that the Queen has absolutely no role in our government except to act as a figurehead. I am not sure, but the House of Commons and the Senate draws up bills/legislations, then the Queen has to sign it to have it passed and made official. From what I gather, this is merely ceremonial and serves no real purpose. I don't think she has ever turned down a signature, yet. This makes me want to do some research into our legal system, tonight... hmmm...

Incorrect. The Queen is the Executive branch of our government and acts on the advise of the Prime Minister (hence the title, Prime Minister). She is the head of our military. She allows parliament to sit and debate. She grants or witholds royal assent to all legislation (if she does not grant Assent, the bill never becomes Law). She has, during Her reign, refused royal assent a couple of times. In Alberta it was passed in Parliament that all newspapers would be forced to print a rebuttal to stories the Cabinet disagreed with. The LTG refused that Bill Royal Assent.

The biggest role that the Queen plays is as a check on the power of Parliament. It is very unlikely that discriminatory laws that pass the Parliament of the day would receive Royal Assent and thereby be passed into law. It's a check on the democratic tendency to oppress minorities.

[noodle]

wow. very well thought out, they took care of the major loopholes that i can think of (as if i know canadian law well). i'm sure there are some loopholes found in US law, though, that aren't in canadian law.

[Inquartata]

De gustibus non disputandam est. It's not my country, so I have no right to an opinion on your laws, except when they have consequences in MY country. As long as the US is not expected to recognize these unions, I but shrug and lift my palms...

[mrbiggs]

Originally Posted by jBirch

Hey All,

Here's the text of the proposed ammendments to Canadian Law in order to legalise same-sex marriage. What do you all think?

http://www.parl.gc.ca/legisinfo/inde...381&List=toc-1

Finally. Hopefully that will spill over into some of the blue states soon.

[Faggot the Hutt]

Huh... I expected much more from Canada, but here it is in black and white courtesy of the Monarchist League of Canada:

"The final stage of Canadian lawmaking is Royal Assent by which bills are created laws by the Queen on behalf of the whole country. In the daily conduct of government, the Queen’s right to be consulted, the right to encourage and the right to warn provide a check on excessive Prime Ministerial power."

Excessive... heh. That's a twisty, funny way of looking at the rule of legitamately elected officials.

[jBirch]

Originally Posted by ****** the Hutt

Huh... I expected much more from Canada, but here it is in black and white courtesy of the Monarchist League of Canada:

"The final stage of Canadian lawmaking is Royal Assent by which bills are created laws by the Queen on behalf of the whole country. In the daily conduct of government, the Queen’s right to be consulted, the right to encourage and the right to warn provide a check on excessive Prime Ministerial power."

Excessive... heh. That's a twisty, funny way of looking at the rule of legitamately elected officials.

Ah, FTH, I can just imagine you and a Reform PM. It would be...interesting, to be sure. Besides, you're just jealous we call Her "The Queen" and not you. I understand.

[oso97]

Originally Posted by ****** the Hutt

Huh... I expected much more from Canada, but here it is in black and white courtesy of the Monarchist League of Canada:

"The final stage of Canadian lawmaking is Royal Assent by which bills are created laws by the Queen on behalf of the whole country. In the daily conduct of government, the Queen’s right to be consulted, the right to encourage and the right to warn provide a check on excessive Prime Ministerial power."

Excessive... heh. That's a twisty, funny way of looking at the rule of legitamately elected officials.

Oh I totally agree. Afterall, its not like there is a long history of "legitmately elected officials" overzealously pursuing their agendas.

/tounge-in-cheek OFF

I could start naming names, but why stir that pot, in light of recent events in our own government. Besides, I'm almost afraid to, given the powers the FBI have been given to root out subversives, terrorists and traitors.

[Faggot the Hutt]

Originally Posted by oso97

I could start naming names, but why stir that pot, in light of recent events in our own government. Besides, I'm almost afraid to, given the powers the FBI have been given to root out subversives, terrorists and traitors.

Puh-lease. It's not like the FBI actually knows how to use those powers to catch people on the Internet. The one program they had that actually worked was nixed. You practically need to have a website like iamaterrorist.com in order for them to notice you. Heck, even if they do notice you, instead of doing the smart thing like hijacking the website and pretending to be the host, they tweedle their thumbs. A few years ago, a porn site operator bought a website whose license had just expired. It turns out that the site was being used as a communications junction by terrorists. The buyer reported everything to the FBI. Guess what they did... nothing. The FBI didn't have anyone available that knew Arabic or web development so they couldn't infiltrate a known terrorist cell. Can you friggin' believe it? Computer Specialists have been tops on the FBI's list of favored candidates for more than a decade yet not one person among them knows anything about website development? I suppose I shouldn't be surprised at their inadequacy, after all, the Nimda virus turned the FBI webserver into it's own personal biatch.

Anyway, about the FBI finding you. What the FBI will do, because they're too stupid to do anything else, is ask Craig for the time and IP address of your post. They will then trace the IP back to your ISP, and then ask the ISP for the list of users who had your IP at the time of your post on F101. The ISP will tie the IP and time to your account and that is how the FBI will find you. Of course, if you were smart, you'd have your IP address routed through a different country... like moi.

[Gav]

Off to the politics ghetto with you.

[Soldier]

[Written from asbestos-lined bomb shelter]

I thought all Canadians were gay anyway?

[jBirch]

Yup. Queer as a two-dollar coin.

[civiltech]

Originally Posted by keith

I do find it quaint that the canadian government still acts on the wishes of dear ol'Lizzy.

What is so quaint about it? She fulfills Her constitutional obligations, and the Government fills their role.

Maybe the word should of been "practical."

[civiltech]

Originally Posted by Soldier

[Written from asbestos-lined bomb shelter]

I thought all Canadians were gay anyway?

Just like all the seamen in the Navy?

[Soldier]

You know what they say about submariners - 160 men go down, 80 couples come back up...

[jBirch]

Originally Posted by Soldier

You know what they say about submariners - 160 men go down, 80 couples come back up...

Actually...I think it's simply, 160 men go down.

[Soldier]

...so very wrong...