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Old 02-01-2005, 02:01 AM   #1
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Yet another question about feet

I keep my feet at 45 degree angles, on the ball of my back foot and heel of front.

When i lunge, should my back foot achieve 90%? what is the process of this? Ever since i started this 45 degree thing, i have lost balance on lunges.
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Old 02-01-2005, 04:15 AM   #2
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I would never keep my backfoot at 45 degrees. 90 degrees all the way. On the lunge, the final push comes from the calf so often my feet end up at about a 120 deg angle at finish of lunge.
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You could also be losing balance due to staying up on the ball of your back foot. I have a teammate who fences like this who we are trying to fix. She can't move as quickly or with balance and has issues with her lunge including speed and balance. It's always a good idea to keep energy in your feet (not always moving but ready to) but to the point where your back heel and your front toe is constantly up will cause some issues.
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Old 02-01-2005, 09:36 AM   #4
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I like the back foot in a 45 degree (forward) position and I teach it in classes. Like any joint the foot/ankle has a range of motion. If the toe is ahead of the heel the final push at the end of the lunge (the main push coming from the quadraceps) has greater potential. The calf only adds a small amount to the lunge, but how many times were you just a "hair" short or late on an attack?

Since the push area of the foot is the ball of the foot, especially at the end of the lunge, there are basically two pivot points, the ball of the foot and the ankle. Like any joint, one that is already extended or partially extended, has no more, or diminished extension left. I also find the same to be true if you launch a flesche attack. The toe being ahead of the heel seems to make a lot of sense. Keeping your stance so that your heels approximately line up is so much easier with the back foot pointed forward slightly. Beginners that do not have years of the repetition in an enguarde position that seasoned fencers have, will have a much easier time keeping their knees and feet in order with the back toe pointed forward.

As far as balance is concered, I think that it is all in what you are used to. For instance, I started to do some PT on my left knee a few weeks ago and the lunge the physical therapist had me do was both feet facing forward and lunging keeping both feet forward. At first, I could not maintain my balance if my lunge was on my left leg (I am left-handed) but the right leg, that had no lunging experience to speak of, was easy to do. My balance was based on years of repetition doing it a certain way. After two weeks of doing the rehab the way the therapist wanted, the balance was fine.

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Old 02-01-2005, 05:11 PM   #5
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I would never keep my backfoot at 45 degrees. 90 degrees all the way.
I agree. In fact, I try to keep my feet oriented so the heel of my left foot (I'm right-handed) is on the line formed by my right foot pointing straight ahead. Imagine forming a backwards "L" with some space between the heels. I find that doing this helps me to keep my butt tucked and my body balanced. This, in turn, helps me to keep my point on target.
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Old 02-01-2005, 07:52 PM   #6
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I'd say that in theory, the angle should be 90 degrees. If it slips somewhat during the bout, that's okay. I'd think that it'd be difficult to retreat with a 45 degree angle.

Actually, now that I get up and do it, it doesn't seem to make a difference. I'm still going to do 90, though.
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