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Old 02-02-2005, 01:50 AM   #41
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Official color is white trimmed with gold. Team uniforms have been white and navy for the past ~30 years. Pioneers dates from 1986, haven't seen a reference to what the teams were referred to prior to that. College seal is in yellow and navy.
http://clio.fivecolleges.edu/smith/s...ndbooks/01.htm

primary source document from 1904 in which white was the school color, and the only school color. since then, **** has been added and taken away.... but originally, just white.

i assume that you checked yourself at the official smith website before posting- specifically http://www.smith.edu/collegerelations/traditions.php .. let me note that it says that "The official color of Smith College is white" -- and the gold trip is only "traditional" and not official.

..... i can't find my source for the mascot thing right this second, but it's common knowledge on campus. this might invovle me going to the archives, or reading the books about smith written by a prof i have this semester.....






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From what I remember, when the club presented a proposal (well, I think the process stopped a bit short of the formal presentation (and possibly before the actual writing of) a proposal) about 3ish years ago (4?) Smith told the club that there currently wasn't money (and in fact was trying to make sure that they wouldn't have to cut teams, this was back when the stock market was "correcting" (or, rather, had recently "corrected")), but that, at such a time as the college had the available funding to add one or more teams that fencing would be at or near the top of the list of sports to be considered.

Of course, given the nature of collegiate turnover (at the student level, rather than administrative), I would be unsurprised if none of the current team were on the team when that discussion took place. Scott certainly was involved, and likely knows more details than I do (he was likely one of my primary sources of information, although I don't remember now who told me what).

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apparently, chris made a big push last year. i don't really know ANY details about it. But Smith is cutting back majorly in a variety of ways, and pissing a lot of people off right now... so... i don't think they're picking up any more varsity sports any time soon.
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CRIMSON... how hard is to remember the color, it's their team name?
Hey, I'm allowed to have a brain-freeze now and again, you know

Especially when it comes to some inconsequential backwater school like Harvard
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Meh, that merely shows that in 1904 the official color was white (at least according to the student handbook).

I assume that you've seen the same Smith page that I did that includes a 1928 letter stating that the official colors are yellow and white, a 1927 letter from an 1882 alumna stating that when SHE was in school the official color was white and that she's unaware of any change to that policy (apparently this letter is in protest of some official document stating that the colors are yellow and white, which, by implication, seems to mean that the school was referring to both colors then as official), and a 1941 letter which cites the 1927 letter as support against yellow being an official color. Seems like at the very least there was debate through the first half of that century over what the official colors were. Much less what they currently are... :)

As far as school athletics team names, Virgins might be a possibility given that the seal features Mary (interesting in a non-religious school...).

And that's about as much time as I'm willing to spend on researching the origins of school colors for a school which I've never attended and am unlikely to attend in the future.

As far as the Chris thing, I'm going to reserve making any comment. If you're interested in what happened back when there were productive discussions talk to Scott (and possibly Anna, not sure how invovled she was).

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