Are Female Chest Protectors Gender Specific?

[Zilverzmurfen]

Originally Posted by AndrastVitesse

Haha! The fencers lumberjack song!

We should ask Asphalt to write some lyrics, he's totally awesome at that!!!

[mrbiggs]

This is a good idea! We should promote the male wearing of what is essentially the hard version of a female undergarment! This will increase fencing's popularity, and bring in those TV audiences that we've been screwing with the rules for! [/SARCASM]

Seriously, guys, if this was allowed, fencing would suck. It seems to me that the larger the protector (in depth), the more the tip would slip off. Therefore, every good fencer would be wearing the largest chest protector they can find. So our TV audience will be watching the Olympic Men's Foil gold metal bout, between two men with DD breasts.

[AndrastVitesse]

Originally Posted by mrbiggs

Seriously, guys, if this was allowed, fencing would suck. It seems to me that the larger the protector (in depth), the more the tip would slip off. Therefore, every good fencer would be wearing the largest chest protector they can find. So our TV audience will be watching the Olympic Men's Foil gold metal bout, between two men with DD breasts.

That would really suck. But it some odd way that would be pretty funny to see.

[mackillian]

I guess I don't think of using advantages like that...it'd seem to cheapen my bouts. I a kid at my club told me he's getting a chest protector so that tips will slide off it and he's sad that the rules already changed so that he can't wear it under his lame.

o_O

What's the fun in that?

[ThatReallyHurt]

Enjoying the sport versus winning at any cost, I guess...

[Inquartata]

This is a pretty funny thread. People who defend screeching, fist-pumping, "mind games", tie-dyed lames and masks with "cool" designs painted on them suddenly are developing concerns for their dignities! Very amusing!

[Point_Left]

You have to draw the line somewhere. Mine is before tie-dye lames. But after colored socks. (Hey, navy isn't that much of a color change! Besides, how else are my parents/non fencing friends supposed to pick me out?)

[LUDICROUS]

Ever since I saw a pic of the harvard team (an epeeist I think it was) wearing 1 light blue sock, I've loved the ideas of coloured socks.

[telkanuru]

I'm pretty sure the fencer was from Tufts if the sock was light blue. Harvard colours are some shade of red I forget. Tufts is light blue, Brandeis is dark blue, and Umass is maroon

[MyrddinsPrecint]

Originally Posted by telkanuru

I'm pretty sure the fencer was from Tufts if the sock was light blue. Harvard colours are some shade of red I forget. Tufts is light blue, Brandeis is dark blue, and Umass is maroon

and smith is black and red.

well, smith fencing is black and red.

our mascot is the succubus.


.... we're... not very traditional.

[edew]

Walter Dragonetti had a green dragon air brushed onto his fencing mask at the Duel In The Desert. I thought it was way cool and am considering painting my mask the same way. I'm thinking of a complete Spiderman outfit, airbrushing the spidey mask (the original look, not the new all-black look from the current comix), and airbrush my jacket and lame with the spidey suit. Even airbrush my socks and shoes and glove as well.

Then, I was talking to some female fencers at the DITD and they were thinking of doing a Wonder Woman uniform. While the mask part won't work very well, I was thinking maybe one might airbrush the jacket in flesh-tone except for skimpy bikini parts or something like that. While I'm sure it won't go well at NACs, I think they would be a hit at regional events like the Duel In The Desert and elsewhere.

Maybe we can offer a prize to the most original uniform.

Some folks might also have seen my EDEW lettering on my lame now. I wonder if USFA would allow that at competitions.

[parrythis]

Originally Posted by C.J.

So, the question is, is there any regulation in the rules that prohibits men from wearing female chest protectors?

No... Go ahead... And pay no attention to the fact that they make for more target area for me.

[C.J.]

Originally Posted by parrythis

No... Go ahead... And pay no attention to the fact that they make for more target area for me.

I don't know about you, but, for all those years I've fenced, I never landed a touch on where it humps.

If you had seen an F-117, you'd know more surface area does not neccessarily mean more target area. A female chest protector is the equivalent of the chassis or a Night Hawk.

[oiuyt]

Originally Posted by telkanuru

I'm pretty sure the fencer was from Tufts if the sock was light blue. Harvard colours are some shade of red I forget. Tufts is light blue, Brandeis is dark blue, and Umass is maroon :D

CRIMSON... how hard is to remember the color, it's their team name?

For reference, Tufts is blue and brown. There are many schools that have blue as one of their colors. Columbia is blue and white and they (at least at times, if not invariably) wear a sock of each of those colors. I suspect this is what Ludicrous saw.

Myrddins- The distinction between Smith and Smith Fencing is an important one in your post. Smith colors are yellow and white (or yellow, white, and navy, or with yellow replaced by gold, depending on which reference you believe) and the mascot/teamname is the "Pioneers". Slight shift in emphasis there if/when you ever do go varsity.

-B :)

[parrythis]

Originally Posted by C.J.

I don't know about you, but, for all those years I've fenced, I never landed a touch on where it humps.

Actually, I have. When I land the point between the humps, it catches nicely.

[MyrddinsPrecint]

Originally Posted by oiuyt

Myrddins- The distinction between Smith and Smith Fencing is an important one in your post. Smith colors are yellow and white (or yellow, white, and navy, or with yellow replaced by gold, depending on which reference you believe) and the mascot/teamname is the "Pioneers". Slight shift in emphasis there if/when you ever do go varsity.

-B

the reference i've read claims that white is the ONLY official school "color".

this dates back to when our mascot/teamname was the "Virgins"....


......why do you think we haven't gone varsity yet????



{that, and Smith is currently not interested in giving us more money.... and a list about 8 billion other reasons. the question is which are the real reasons.... i'm not actually privy to that information.}

[Inquartata]

Originally Posted by edew

Some folks might also have seen my EDEW lettering on my lame now. I wonder if USFA would allow that at competitions.

I don't see why not. Do the rules specify a certain font? If not I should think they could not find a way to justify prohibiting it.

But Walter's mask was just ludicrous ( not Ludicrous, but absurd ). I would have gone and jeered at him for it if he were not so big.

[oiuyt]

Originally Posted by MyrddinsPrecint

the reference i've read claims that white is the ONLY official school "color".

this dates back to when our mascot/teamname was the "Virgins"....

Official color is white trimmed with gold. Team uniforms have been white and navy for the past ~30 years. Pioneers dates from 1986, haven't seen a reference to what the teams were referred to prior to that. College seal is in yellow and navy.

Originally Posted by MyrddinsPrecint

......why do you think we haven't gone varsity yet????

{that, and Smith is currently not interested in giving us more money.... and a list about 8 billion other reasons. the question is which are the real reasons.... i'm not actually privy to that information.}

From what I remember, when the club presented a proposal (well, I think the process stopped a bit short of the formal presentation (and possibly before the actual writing of) a proposal) about 3ish years ago (4?) Smith told the club that there currently wasn't money (and in fact was trying to make sure that they wouldn't have to cut teams, this was back when the stock market was "correcting" (or, rather, had recently "corrected")), but that, at such a time as the college had the available funding to add one or more teams that fencing would be at or near the top of the list of sports to be considered.

Of course, given the nature of collegiate turnover (at the student level, rather than administrative), I would be unsurprised if none of the current team were on the team when that discussion took place. Scott certainly was involved, and likely knows more details than I do (he was likely one of my primary sources of information, although I don't remember now who told me what).

-B :)

[oiuyt]

Originally Posted by Inquartata

I don't see why not. Do the rules specify a certain font? If not I should think they could not find a way to justify prohibiting it.

Ah, but his name is "DEW", not "EDEW"... A rules stickler COULD argue it and make trouble (not that I see it as likely, mind you, nor would _I_ card Eric if he were on my strip (well, at least not for THAT ;) ).

-B :)

[fencerX]

Originally Posted by oiuyt

Ah, but his name is "DEW", not "EDEW"... A rules stickler COULD argue it and make trouble ...

And a more pedantic rules stickler could argue that "EDEW" meets the USFA requirement that "each fencer's last name [...] must be on the back of the uniform or lame between the shoulders or [...]" since his last name "DEW" is there. It just happens to be prefixed by his first initial. Or do some officials feel the need to hassle twins or families with multiple fencers or fencers with common names, such as Smith or Lee, who also have their first initials printed on their jacket or lame?

btw, a strict reading of the USFA rule requires names to be "printed", so all those embroidered names on jackets one sees at NACs technically don't meet the rule.