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Old 01-28-2005, 11:10 AM   #1
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New Escrime edition out

FIE's official mag in ezine form:
http://www.fie.ch/Communication/Magazines.aspx
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Old 01-28-2005, 11:15 AM   #2
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Mr R thanks everyone for not accepting bribes....

I still think we should have took the money.
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Three (out of 7) Americans on the President's commission. Gee, wonder who we backed...
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Long article on new timing.
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Old 01-28-2005, 11:22 AM   #5
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Ummmm... the PBT ad on the next to last page just looks weird.
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Thanks for this Esskreemr, the article by Ioan Pop was a good read.

"But if somebody says that, with the reduction of
blocking time, foil is becoming more like epee, I
can assure you that it is completely untrue. This
is why I must set the record straight. First of all,
the blocking time in foil is 300 milliseconds
whereas it is 40 milliseconds for epee, in other
words over 7 times less. Therefore this criticism
does not make sense."

I've said as much on fencing.net!

"Another problem has been identified : the hard
surface, i.e. the chest protector in women’s foil.
On occasion, it seems that the pointe tends to
bounce off and does not light up. If we have to
adapt chest protectors, we will. Already, the
SEMI committee has come up with the idea of
adding an extra layer of foam in order to soften
the blows and reduce the bounce of the pointe.
If there is a problem, the explanation and the
solution are the SEMI’s responsibility, after hearing
people’s opinions on the subject."

This is one of the possible solutions we've been discussing

The overall tone is the new timings are here to stay but they may require some additional adjustments.
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Good link, thanks eskreemer. And the article by Ioan Pop was good too.

It may have been a twist of translation, but I read a lot into Pop's phrase
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Some people are also saying, in a constructive spirit,
He has apparently received comments with an unconstructive mood, e.g., from people who aren't making a good faith effort to integrate with the timing changes.

Though I disagree with his characterization of pre-change foil, he makes some good points. The 15-touch bouts going from three to six minutes is an interesting observation.
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Mr. Ioan Pop's views about the state of Foil fencing were
discussed in the Escrime magazine's December 2001 edition.
The title of the article is "Foil's Identity Crisis". It is a short but very
focused article that details the way Foil is fenced and its impact on the
a) The Competition b) Refereeing and c) Coaching.
I would like to mention a short quote from the article. It seems to me that
FIE is doing what it can to bring back what was called the fencing dialogue.
This is what made fencing interesting and this is what the audience is willing
to PAY to see.

"The whole logic of the bout has disappeared. A dialogue of movements
made by the two opponents has been transformed into two parallel
monologues. We are no longer watching the movements of one fencer
and the subsequent reactions of the other. Preparatory phases to mask
one's real tactical intentions have completely disappeared."
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