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Old 01-25-2005, 06:33 AM   #1
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I was talking to someone last night who had been told by a fencing supplier (name witheld to protect the guilty) that no foilist in the top 100 use LP points.
I was surprised.
Is it true?
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In a word NO!

Many of the top fencers are sponsored (Richard included) and therefore have to use a particular brand of kit. It doesn't necessarily say anything about the quality of the kit it just means that they don't have to pay for it!
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Pretty much what I figured.
Do such coments coun't as slander?
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The only reason I see that they wouldn't use LP points is because they aren't used to them or they don't know much about the points. It's just a matter of preference. The points are obviously pretty good, but they are also relatively new. The stupid vendor you talked to was probably just trying to sell you whatever he had. That comment is stated almost as if he is trying to say, "Use LP points and you will lose!" Obvious slander/stupidity.
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The only reason I see that they wouldn't use LP points is because they aren't used to them or they don't know much about the points. It's just a matter of preference. The points are obviously pretty good, but they are also relatively new. The stupid vendor you talked to was probably just trying to sell you whatever he had. That comment is stated almost as if he is trying to say, "Use LP points and you will lose!" Obvious slander/stupidity.
A couple of points here.

1) The vendor was wrong. At least one fencer in the top 100 does.

2) It's not slander or stupidity. It's marketing. The job of companies, specifically sports equipment companies, is to make the user feel that their equipment makes a positive impact on the game, and that other equipment is substandard.

There are reasons for both. For the top fencers, choosing equipment comes down to a variety of things. First is sponsorship. The French team is sposored by Prieur, Cartel, and Adidas just to name a few. Guess which equipment they'll be using at tournaments?

The German team is sposored, of course, by Allstar/Uhlmann.

Another thing is availabilty. When I started fencing, I looked at purchasing points. There was a fencing store in my area. They carried at least two models of everything. One french, one german. All the top fencers in the area who recommended equipment to me said, get german.

I constantly think about switching, but the ability for me to get parts from Italy, or LP, or somewhere else is difficult and expensive.

I can only imagine that if I lived in Germany, France, or China, that the availability of parts would be just as difficult.
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I was talking to someone last night who had been told by a fencing supplier (name witheld to protect the guilty) that no foilist in the top 100 use LP points.
I was surprised.
Is it true?
You've gone and insulted Leon Paul on this forum.

You must be incredibly brave to do that, or stupid.

Run for it.
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You've gone and insulted Leon Paul on this forum.

You must be incredibly brave to do that, or stupid.

Run for it.
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I was surprised.
I'd say that right there makes it a compliment, genius. He was saying he found it hard to believe that no one in the top 100 used LP points.
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You've gone and insulted Leon Paul on this forum. You must be incredibly brave to do that, or stupid.
Nah - I've met Barry, Joan, Ben, Alex et al, and I ain't scared. I'm not even slightly intimidated by Rene

Anyway, I'm proud to be an iconoclast!

Whilst I have no problem speaking my mind about LP or Allstar, Prieur, PBT or anyone else in this or any other arena, in this case I wasn't having a pop at LP and Southpaw's kind of on the right lines - I actually quite like LP points. They're like Ladas - they might not be not very pretty, but they're bruitally simple and built like tanks.

I guess the vendor in question (who doesn't supply LP) should have said "there are very few British fencers in the top 100".
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Nah - I've met Barry, Joan, Ben, Alex et al, and I ain't scared.
I am intriuged to know when and where I met you.

You may not be scared of rene but I seriously would not mess with Doreen!
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I'd say that right there makes it a compliment, genius. He was saying he found it hard to believe that no one in the top 100 used LP points.
I was kidding. Calm down and take a few chill pills.
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