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Bah, I can't be bothered with that, I just fence in the moment.
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Oh yeah, a real physical chess master.
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I would like to know more about the tactical side.
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01-21-2005, 06:54 PM
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#21 | | Épéeist Hive Queen
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Originally Posted by VELISARIOS Without strategy and tactic you cannot win. | Well I have actually happened to win quite a few matches/bouts/whatever without these features. 'Suppose it was all pure luck then... 
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01-21-2005, 07:12 PM
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#22 | | Boom!
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Originally Posted by Zilverzmurfen Well I have actually happened to win quite a few matches/bouts/whatever without these features. 'Suppose it was all pure luck then... | Nah, I bet it's more like you unknowingly tapped into your huge resevoirs of pure, unfettered skill. | |
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01-22-2005, 02:36 PM
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#23 | | Senior Member
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| Eh. Depends. When it comes to this sort of thing, there are two kinds of opponents, those you should fence, and those you should just hit  | |
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01-22-2005, 05:59 PM
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#24 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas
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| Tactical thoughts
The tactical side of the sport is one of the reasons I became so attracted to it. I think about tactics constantly during a bout.
The successful execution of those tactics eludes me more often than I would like to admit.
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01-23-2005, 04:47 AM
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#25 | | ǝlpoou
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Originally Posted by garyhayenga I found Tae Kwan Do sparring to be very/most similar to fencing Sabre. What do you think? Or are you strictly an epeeist?
gary hayenga | i find it most similar to epee, myself
pm me if you want to know my reasoning. | |
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01-23-2005, 09:09 AM
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#26 | | Senior Member
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| Hm. I've always thought that mentally, epee was very much like tennis... | |
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01-24-2005, 10:02 AM
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#27 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by telkanuru Hm. I've always thought that mentally, epee was very much like tennis... | "You Cannot Be Serious!"
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01-24-2005, 08:07 PM
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#28 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
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| Yahoo Serious, maybe...  | |
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01-24-2005, 08:21 PM
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#29 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Alain I'm an épéeist But the two sports do have a lot in common - importance of distance and timing, efficiency of movement and power, etc. I remember (I think it was Srecki) saying that fencing is the art of making the fewest mistakes - in both sports, it's true to say that if you get hit, it's not because your opponent did something right, but you did something wrong.
Apart from that, they don't let us play with swords at TKD...  |
I, too, found epee and TKD to be quite similar in many respects.
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01-24-2005, 08:47 PM
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#30 | | Senior Member
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| From a tactical perspective Epee is very similar to Karate "point sparring" competitions. If you compare Epee to NHB (No Hold Barred) events then they are very different on the tactical level. The main issue being that in point sparring or modern fencing it's about scoring a "hit", while with the NHB (or even US style boxing) the goal is more often doing damage to the other person. If fencing was a blood sport we would use very different tactics. 
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01-24-2005, 11:25 PM
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#31 | | Senior Member
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| Blood Sport
What do you have in mind, Tydive, regarding fencing as a blood sport?
Some do score the fencing differently in an attempt to enforce the grim realities of 'sharp' weapons.
Mensuren definitely is a blood sport, but there is no risk of fatality or serious damage, so tactics aren't changed as much.
Point d'arrettes might work...
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01-24-2005, 11:30 PM
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#32 | | Senior Member
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| Points D'arrettes being those wooden blocks just behind the tip of a sword? That would be cool. Ish. 
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01-25-2005, 12:57 AM
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#33 | | Just Joined
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| gotta think
all the people making real results.... they are all thinking
if you don't think when you fence, then you are going to get manipulated and destroyed by anyone who has any knowledge of the sport above mediocrity. | |
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01-25-2005, 02:04 PM
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#34 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by VERITAS What do you have in mind, Tydive, regarding fencing as a blood sport? | Just that if we were fencing to first blood we would use very different techniques and tactics. If there are any pentathaletes out there they could give you a better idea of what that entails.
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01-25-2005, 02:15 PM
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#35 | | Senior Member
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| Point D'arettes
The wooden blocks have a different name, which escapes me at the moment.
The point d'arettes are very similar: they have three short prongs protruding from one disc which is cold-welded onto the the tip of an epee.
For friendly bouts, the tip is swathed in dental floss, then in athletic tap. It catches the cloth of the jacket and provides a somewhat more realistic feel of a sharp weapon. It is rarely any more painful than a normal tip or an electric tip.
For "duels," the protective covering is removed, fully exposing these short tips. Hits are counted by observing the bloody incisions in the flesh.
Not lethal, but painful.
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