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Old 01-24-2005, 06:41 PM   #61
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And what if you need to go at some time other then your "designated piss break"?
What scrapinpeg said. They say BCT isn't Basic Cadet Training; it's really Bladder Control Training. We can be made to hold it for hours; it's possible. I don't see why the same couldn't be done to prisoners, without being called "torturous".
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What scrapinpeg said. They say BCT isn't Basic Cadet Training; it's really Bladder Control Training. We can be made to hold it for hours; it's possible. I don't see why the same couldn't be done to prisoners, without being called "torturous".
Try days and see where you get. Escorting prisoners to the bathroom is a short term solution. You have to ensure, each and every time that they go, that they have left nothing for another prisoner to use, that they are secure and that the transport itself is conducted in a safe and orderly manner.

Further, if you do tell a prisoner to "hold it", what's he going to do? I'll tell you. He'll piss out the bars of his cell, preferably on a guard. Or he'll make a nice puddle right in front of the door, so that you have to step in it everytime you open the door to get him for "piss breaks". And what about lock-downs? Where you want to control the prisoner in a highly secure cell for days on end? What then? It's not possible to do isolation either, unless, of course, you want him to have to sleep in his own feces and urine.

THAT is considered torture.
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Try days and see where you get. Escorting prisoners to the bathroom is a short term solution. You have to ensure, each and every time that they go, that they have left nothing for another prisoner to use, that they are secure and that the transport itself is conducted in a safe and orderly manner.

Further, if you do tell a prisoner to "hold it", what's he going to do? I'll tell you. He'll piss out the bars of his cell, preferably on a guard. Or he'll make a nice puddle right in front of the door, so that you have to step in it everytime you open the door to get him for "piss breaks". And what about lock-downs? Where you want to control the prisoner in a highly secure cell for days on end? What then? It's not possible to do isolation either, unless, of course, you want him to have to sleep in his own feces and urine.

THAT is considered torture.
Your what-ifs aside, we actually happen to be managing quite well on the bathroom front. Thank you for your concern, however.
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