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| Has someone who as used about every menthod mention above. I find when working at NAC acetone and a heat gun combine work well along with the pliers. But if doing the work at the shop I just take my time and used the heat gun menthod. But that also depened on the glue that was used as well. If its a BG blade acetone for them because of the glue they used.
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02-08-2007, 05:28 PM
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02-08-2007, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Family Armourist 
I found a solvent that is not acetone based. It's called Ultra Solvent. 2 applications within 20 or 30 minutes and the super glue turned to jelly and I was able to pull the wire straight out without any breaks. Just go to www.theglueguy.com . $5.98 + shipping saved me a whole lot of time and aggrivation. | I've got a ridiculously over CA'd blade with a wire to remove, so I've ordered this stuff. I'll report back after giving it a try. If it's any good I'll stop beating myself up for never putting an acetone bath together... | |
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02-09-2007, 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by remise For all the wiring experts out there - can anyone tell me the fastest or easiest way to get an old wire out of a foil without acetone? I'd rather not have my kids messing around with it, but I do want them to start learning to do repairs themselves. | Remise:
+Disemble the weapon down to the blade
+Use a micro torch to heat up the channel
+Give yourself about a 1" lead from the flame and gently pull the wire out once the CA has loosened from the heat.
+Now that the wire is totally out, use a dremmel diamond wheel to clean out the channel.
+Your done.
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02-09-2007, 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by remise For all the wiring experts out there - can anyone tell me the fastest or easiest way to get an old wire out of a foil without acetone? I'd rather not have my kids messing around with it, but I do want them to start learning to do repairs themselves. | Quote:
Originally Posted by twisterfencing Remise:
+Disemble the weapon down to the blade
+Use a micro torch to heat up the channel
+Give yourself about a 1" lead from the flame and gently pull the wire out once the CA has loosened from the heat.
+Now that the wire is totally out, use a dremmel diamond wheel to clean out the channel.
+Your done. | Hmm. Kids and acetone or kids and micro torch? Kids + acetone + torch...  | |
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02-09-2007, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Fencer 'Course, I may have gotton luck with that one, but the only time I've seen a popping problem (particularly since starting to use the more rubbery superglue) was if I missed a spot... | Rubbery superglue? 
I have never seen anything like that in Sweden, and I tend to look over the glue department whenever I am in a hardwarde store. Is it cyanoacrylate-based? Can you provide brand names, I would like to try something like that out later on. What does it cost?
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02-09-2007, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by PeterGustafsson Hi!
Rubbery superglue?
I have never seen anything like that in Sweden, and I tend to look over the glue department whenever I am in a hardwarde store. Is it cyanoacrylate-based? Can you provide brand names, I would like to try something like that out later on. What does it cost?
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Peter Gustafsson | Sure thing, Peter....but I'll have to wait until I get to the office later today (I'm at home right now)....then I can give you brand names. But it IS a CA glue. | |
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02-09-2007, 07:58 PM
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| The flexible CA glue is available at many woodworking retailers. Woodturners use this a lot for assembling turned pens - the brass tube is glued inside the wood blank with CA glue, and the rubberized version seems to allow a bit of wood movement.
I've contemplated using this myself. I'll see where it's available in bulk.
Here's a link for a source... http://www.pswood.com/home.php?cat=59
another... http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/b...ue--1-oz..HTML
Last edited by mutantmoose; 02-09-2007 at 08:04 PM.
Reason: incorrect location listed - glue wasn't actually available there!
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02-10-2007, 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by HDG Hmm. Kids and acetone or kids and micro torch? Kids + acetone + torch... | HDG
I for one try to avoid acetone. Too slow for me.
Yes, there are those times I have to use it on that epee blade that someone thought that more glue is better (not true) to remove. Note: most times the use of a dremmel and some form of heat (I like a micro torch) to remove a wire is all that is needed and works great!
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02-10-2007, 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by remise I'd rather not have my kids messing around with it, but I do want them to start learning to do repairs themselves. | Acetone is easy to get, easy to use, and always works without any technical knowledge.
you could just put the blades in yourself. or, you could practice discipline. if the kids aren't careful, hit them. tell them that lighting themselves on fire hurts more than your hand. | |
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02-10-2007, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Purple Fencer Sure thing, Peter....but I'll have to wait until I get to the office later today (I'm at home right now)....then I can give you brand names. But it IS a CA glue. | Peter....I have 2 different ones (although I haven't used one of them in a while). One is called Instaflex...website is www.bsadhesiveslcom The make several different A glues fir different uses...the Instaflex in in a pink bottle.
The other (and much more expensive one) is Zip Grip HV 1200 from Devcon www.devcon.com I think. | |
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02-11-2007, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Fencer Peter....I have 2 different ones (although I haven't used one of them in a while). One is called Instaflex...website is www.bsadhesiveslcom The make several different A glues fir different uses...the Instaflex in in a pink bottle. | Sorry, but that link does not work for me. I could not find anything with a pink bottle via Google either. Sure that it is the correct URL?
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02-11-2007, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Purple Fencer Peter....I have 2 different ones (although I haven't used one of them in a while). One is called Instaflex...website is www.bsadhesiveslcom The make several different A glues fir different uses...the Instaflex in in a pink bottle.
The other (and much more expensive one) is Zip Grip HV 1200 from Devcon www.devcon.com I think. | The bsadhesives URL is obviously a typo but I couldn't get to www.bsadhesives.com either.
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02-11-2007, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by fencerbill | Might be this one: http://www.bsiadhesives.com/ | |
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02-11-2007, 10:33 PM
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| When I've had to reware in a hurry I usualy just yank the wire our and use a razor blade/exacto knife to clean out anything that remains, but I had a funny thing happen today at practice- the wire on one of my foils popped out, nothing strange in and of itself, exept that upon inspection the whole length just came right out nice and clean. This was a blade that I had last wired over a year ago and I guess the extremely dry air just made the thing dry up and pop loose.
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Originally Posted by Goldgar | Yah...that's the correct one. Sorry about the typo...I was in th office at 5am yesterday morning finishing some blades for the Linkmeyer and wasn't UITE awake when I read the bottle! | |
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02-13-2007, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Barry Paul If the wire has been glued by us (Leon Paul) there is little/no chance of pulling the wire out carefully. All you need is a hot air gun (paint stripping gun) Hold the wire as Neveel explained gently heat the blade just in front of the plyiers as the glue softens gently pull out the wire, continue carefully down the blade. If you melt the wire you have got it much too hot. All this use of a drimmel and acetone is just not nessary,. Barry | *flinch* Wouldn't the heat screw up the tempering on the blade? And wouldn't it compromise the integrity of an FIE?
Okay,and side question: is there any reason that my team mate's Leon Paul FIE blades break ALOT faster than his othe ones?
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02-13-2007, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Warrior Princess *flinch* Wouldn't the heat screw up the tempering on the blade? And wouldn't it compromise the integrity of an FIE? | If you're heating the blade enough to alter the temper then you are using way too much heat. You only need to break down the glue, not melt the wire. | |
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