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Old 01-13-2005, 10:08 AM   #1
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Excuse me sir, do you have Prince Andrew in a Nazi Uniform?

Yes, he's over in aisle 5... ha ha ha ha. You see it's funny 'cause there's this joke about Prince Albert in a can...ummmm.....and....well, you got to let him out to breath.....errrr....

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe...act/index.html
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Old 01-13-2005, 10:40 AM   #2
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It was Prince Harry.

It was a fancy dress party.

The theme for the party was colonials and natives - not pc anyway.

I don't think that it shows that he is neo nazi.

At worst it shows that he is an idiot who forgot that the world is watching and that British tabloids are not only aimed at "the lowest common denominator" but that they are extremely hypocritical [have you ever read there their commentaries about foreigners?].

Read the BBC acccount: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4170623.stm

It's all about Sun readership figures.
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Harry, not Andrew. Andrew was Fergi's husband, if I'm not mistaken.

Dumb kids (not you, Harry)...talk about a ROYAL screw up.
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Our old and famous fencing coach taught the brothers fencing when they were younger and he said then that Harry was troublesome. Think thats all I can say without being charged with treason!
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oh sheise, Harry's a neo-nazi skinhead
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Old 01-13-2005, 11:28 AM   #6
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At worst it shows that he is an idiot who forgot that the world is watching and that British tabloids are not only aimed at "the lowest common denominator" but that they are extremely hypocritical [have you ever read there their commentaries about foreigners?].

It's all about Sun readership figures.
Quite so - the Sun are hardly in a position to criticise when, a few years ago, in the run-up to an important football match between england and german they had a front page depicting two england players in tin helmets and an adaptation of winston churchill's famous speech (we will fight them on the beaches etc). It carried on through the paper and was very racist against germans. It was actually delivered to us by mistake but my Dad was so disgusted he wouldn't have it in the house. He phoned up the newsagents and gave them a right pasting.
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yeah, but is it racist when they started the 1st and 2nd world war and were responsible for killing over 300,000 british soldiers?
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/ww2-loss.htm
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and to answer my own question, yes, it quite probably is still racist
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... It carried on through the paper and was very racist against germans. ....

Wait, I'm confused. How is something racist if it's anti-German? If I recall correctly, most britons and germans are caucasian.
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racism isn't just about the colour of your skin, man. it's also your religion, ethnicity, country, etc.
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Wait, I'm confused. How is something racist if it's anti-German? If I recall correctly, most britons and germans are caucasian.
On top of what HillBilly said, "racism" is often used in situations having nothing to do with racism because the word has strong feelings associated with it in the U.S.


HillBilly, in regards to your post a few back.....are you saying that it's OK to be discriminatory against Germans because they started WW1 and WW2?
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Wait, I'm confused. How is something racist if it's anti-German? If I recall correctly, most britons and germans are caucasian.
Perhaps I should have said discriminatory. But you knew what I meant - it's not an uncommon usage.
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HillBilly, in regards to your post a few back.....are you saying that it's OK to be discriminatory against Germans because they started WW1 and WW2?
Yes, that's exactly what he was saying.

Where the heck is that sarcastic smiley?!
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Yes, that's exactly what he was saying.

Where the heck is that sarcastic smiley?!
Wait. I don't get it. Was he really saying that? Or am I missing something?


Wait, was HillBilly being sarcastic?
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He was being ironic, but I don't know about sarcastic.

And I don't think it's any less acceptable to hate Germans for starting both World Wars than it is to hate Yankees for burning Atlanta.

And "racism" is a term that long ago outgrew its original meaning and usage, which makes it quite confusing to those of us who prefer precision in language.

I remember attending a "sensitivity" workshop in the early 70's where the lecturer was purporting to outline the elements of "racism", when in fact he was simply delineating all of the elements of classic Marxism with a different name on it. When I spoke to him about it after the event (we debated it long over pizza and beer), he was adamant that he was describing racism and that Marxism was something quite different.

No wonder we have such a hard time solving problems--their definitions morph before our eyes.
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Oh no, i was just stirring up conversation I am openly anti-racist 24/7.
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Where the heck is that sarcastic smiley?!

we really need a sarcastic smiley, it's lame to put *sarcasm* at the end of your post... craig? wanna get us a sarcasm smiley?
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we really need a sarcastic smiley, it's lame to put *sarcasm* at the end of your post... craig? wanna get us a sarcasm smiley?
Yes, get all of these. We'll need one for tongue-in-cheek sarcasm, one for bitter sarcasm, one for biting sarcasm, one for dripping sarcasm, one for...

http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/sarcasm.htm
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Does anyone really care what Prince Harry wears? Really?

A joke in bad taste, who cares. Don't flame me for not knowing my history, because I know it better than the next man

To reiterate, who cares.
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Yes, get all of these. We'll need one for tongue-in-cheek sarcasm, one for bitter sarcasm, one for biting sarcasm, one for dripping sarcasm, one for...

http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/sarcasm.htm
I actually don't mind the smiley situation. Little peeves me more than forums where EVERY SINGLE MEMBER has to end their post with like 400 animated smilies. (Maybe this should go in "Let it out!")
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