01-02-2005, 10:00 PM
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#21 | | Senior Member
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| I've seen pommeled pistol grips used before in tournaments without anyone noticing. So long as you hold it normally, you might get away with it in local tournaments depending on your division.
But if you do that, you should bring 2 French as backup. | 
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01-03-2005, 02:39 AM
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#22 | | Senior Member
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| How the heck do you pommel a pistol? | 
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01-03-2005, 01:22 PM
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#23 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by telkanuru How the heck do you pommel a pistol? | Buy a Spanish....my point was that they're grips that have several, um, extrusions, but also have a pommel. | |
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01-03-2005, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by telkanuru How the heck do you pommel a pistol? | Old school spanish grips took french blades and french pommels; I've actually got an old Castello. You can hold it waaayyyy back, ie pommel, and still use one of the prongs.
If you look at the Spanish grip on AmFencing's website, imagine it w/o the indentation for the heel of you palm, but rather coming straight back like a French grip. Better yet, picture a french grip with two prongs.
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01-04-2005, 02:01 PM
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#25 | | Armorer
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| I think by the question "How do you pommel a pistol grip?" that the Spanish grip is not considered a pistol grip. There are three types of handles, French, Italian and Orthopaedic. Pistol grip is a sub-category of Orthopaedic. Those that have a French style pommel do not LOOK like a pistol. This is one of the problems with using names for handles, one persons Beligium is another persons Visconte.
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01-04-2005, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DHCJr I think by the question "How do you pommel a pistol grip?" that the Spanish grip is not considered a pistol grip. There are three types of handles, French, Italian and Orthopaedic. Pistol grip is a sub-category of Orthopaedic. Those that have a French style pommel do not LOOK like a pistol. This is one of the problems with using names for handles, one persons Beligium is another persons Visconte. |
Okay. Let me rephrase. I've seen pommels on orthapedic grips before used in tournaments without any objections.
Darn, I can't edit the original post because I must have made it on a different computer or something... | |
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01-04-2005, 09:34 PM
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#27 | | Armorer
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| I've also seen fencers with lame that didn't come close to covering target. But does it make it legal or is it no one cared or didn't want to bother or didn't know the rules?
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01-27-2005, 11:14 PM
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| It's been a while since anyone posted in this, but I have another question... I just talked to my fencing instructor today and he said that I should get a Spanish grip with a French pommel on the end of it. AmFencing does have Spanish grips, but they're the kind that you screw on like a pistol grip. I'm looking for the other kind, that has the pommel on the end, like I said, just so it will be more like a French grip and such.
If anyone knows where I can buy one of those, that would be great to know.
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01-27-2005, 11:17 PM
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| Triplette had them, but they're illigal for competition, FYI. | |
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01-28-2005, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by telkanuru Triplette had them, but they're illigal for competition, FYI. | Given that this has been mentioned once or twice in the first life ( acouple of weeks ago) of this thread (including by him) I suspect he already knew this bit of knowledge... :)
To answer your (telk's) question, you can (not legally, but physically) pommel a pistol grip, you just don't have any control whatsoever. I've tried it for gits and shiggles in the past, or when, during a lesson taught with a pistol grip, I needed to explain something about what a french pommeller is doing. Similarly a righty pistol can be used left handed (in this case something tried when there were too few working righties avialable).
-B :)
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