Self Stenciling

[Hamley]

Anyone try those new stelf stenciling things from physical chess. I need my name on my back and it look like someting worthwhile to get.

[daveappr]

I haven't used the kit you mention but I have gotten a fabric marker &, suitable stencils from a craft store and stencilled? a jacket myself. I also have had clubmates do this as well. Make sure, if you go this route that the marker is permanent and try to wash the jacket (ro knickers) at least once prior to using.If you go the kit route be sure to write a review of it.

[glowstix]

yeah, i agree with the above post. walmart has 3 inch stencils that are perfect for fencing purposes (without them realizing it). they're like $2.50. the letters are exactly the way USFA wants them too. the blue fabric paints also from walmart are like $0.77 for a little bottle. it takes great care but very possible to do a good job (practice on some old fabric first though). by the time you get around to ordering the PC set and pay shipping you would have spent $20 and the same thing at walmart is ~$5. besides its fun doing it yourself.

[cowpaste]

The best is when you mess up and ruin your FIE gear.

[oiuyt]

Originally Posted by glowstix

yeah, i agree with the above post. walmart has 3 inch stencils that are perfect for fencing purposes (without them realizing it). they're like $2.50. the letters are exactly the way USFA wants them too. the blue fabric paints also from walmart are like $0.77 for a little bottle. it takes great care but very possible to do a good job (practice on some old fabric first though). by the time you get around to ordering the PC set and pay shipping you would have spent $20 and the same thing at walmart is ~$5. besides its fun doing it yourself.

Of note, I can tell from just this post that the letters are NOT "exactly the way the USFA wants them". 3" is ~7.62cm. The rules specify that the lettering must be a maximum of 10cm and a minimum of 8cm high. Incidently that also means that 4" stencils would also not be technically in compliance. 3 1/2" (assuming they're available) would work. Just a head's-up.

-B :)

[glowstix]

Originally Posted by oiuyt

Of note, I can tell from just this post that the letters are NOT "exactly the way the USFA wants them". 3" is ~7.62cm. The rules specify that the lettering must be a maximum of 10cm and a minimum of 8cm high. Incidently that also means that 4" stencils would also not be technically in compliance. 3 1/2" (assuming they're available) would work. Just a head's-up.

-B

realistically speaking, no one can tell the difference between 7.62cm and 8cm. i got away with it at the NAC. only if its obviously smaller will an **** of a director check. if you are fencing world cups it might be an issue. i'll find out when i go..

[oiuyt]

Originally Posted by glowstix

realistically speaking, no one can tell the difference between 7.62cm and 8cm. i got away with it at the NAC. only if its obviously smaller will an **** of a director check. if you are fencing world cups it might be an issue. i'll find out when i go..:blah:

World cups are unlikely to check. World Championships might.

For reference there were checks being performed on at least the first day of the NAC in Richmond (complete with FOC member roaming the venue with a paper with 8cm and 10cm marks on it to hold up against the lettering on fencers). I suspect that this will not be repeated, or at most happen very infrequently. There is at least one thread here discussing the topic and the events surrounding it.

I would not have objected had the claim been that lettering from the stencils would likely be accepted at USFA events. The claim that it is "exactly the way the USFA wants them" was something that is not technically true, and I figured that anyone who was following the directions, as given, should, at least, be aware of the potential issue (ie if you're going to violate the rules, you should know what rules you are violating and to what extent).

-B :)

[glowstix]

Originally Posted by oiuyt

I would not have objected had the claim been that lettering from the stencils would likely be accepted at USFA events. The claim that it is "exactly the way the USFA wants them" was something that is not technically true, and I figured that anyone who was following the directions, as given, should, at least, be aware of the potential issue (ie if you're going to violate the rules, you should know what rules you are violating and to what extent).

-B

you know, when i said "exactly" i was actually referring to the font and the fact that its block letters more so than the size. i didn't make that clear the first time. i know the rules and i know that the 3 inches is just marginally smaller than the requirement. btw, at the div II NAC, i saw guys with their names written on and clearly less than 8-10cm so i'm pretty sure they're lenient at least at the div II level.

[Zara_athlen]

Originally Posted by oiuyt

World cups are unlikely to check. World Championships might.

For reference there were checks being performed on at least the first day of the NAC in Richmond (complete with FOC member roaming the venue with a paper with 8cm and 10cm marks on it to hold up against the lettering on fencers). I suspect that this will not be repeated, or at most happen very infrequently. There is at least one thread here discussing the topic and the events surrounding it.

I would not have objected had the claim been that lettering from the stencils would likely be accepted at USFA events. The claim that it is "exactly the way the USFA wants them" was something that is not technically true, and I figured that anyone who was following the directions, as given, should, at least, be aware of the potential issue (ie if you're going to violate the rules, you should know what rules you are violating and to what extent).

-B

I cant believe someone was actually doing that. How ridiculous. Also, will the stenciling kit work on a lame?

[glowstix]

Originally Posted by Zara_athlen

I cant believe someone was actually doing that. How ridiculous. Also, will the stenciling kit work on a lame?

i don't know, i fence epee.. if you don't want to take chances with ruining the lame, you can always put your name on you rear leg which is allowed according to USFA rules.

btw, i knew someone who fenced the div I NAC starting every bout with a red card because his letters were too small...oddly enough, this person is a national referee as well, you'd think he'd know if some officials would actually check.

[oiuyt]

Originally Posted by glowstix

i don't know, i fence epee.. :blah: if you don't want to take chances with ruining the lame, you can always put your name on you rear leg which is allowed according to USFA rules.

btw, i knew someone who fenced the div I NAC starting every bout with a red card because his letters were too small...oddly enough, this person is a national referee as well, you'd think he'd know if some officials would actually check.

That's the thing, normally it ISN'T checked. Find the threads about Richmond for the discussion of the events that led up to it being checked for the majority of the first day (although not after that).

Personally I'd just write the name on my leg and avoid the whole red card thing as soon as it happened the first time. Or extend the lettering in place, as a number of competitors chose to do.

-B :)

[Bokken]

Great. I'm sure that writing the name on the leg works for those of you with short last names, but for people like me...my last name would take up the entire knicker leg if I used a 9cm high stencil.

How are the letters supposed to be oriented on the leg, IE should the name be read horizontally or vertically?

[oiuyt]

Originally Posted by Bokken

Great. I'm sure that writing the name on the leg works for those of you with short last names, but for people like me...my last name would take up the entire knicker leg if I used a 9cm high stencil. ;)

How are the letters supposed to be oriented on the leg, IE should the name be read horizontally or vertically?

Rules don't specify how thin lettering can be or orientation of lettering on the leg. Nor does taking up the entire knicker leg present a problem.

I merely suggest that if a few minutes of preparation gained me a touch in each and every bout that I fenced for the rest of the day that I would be willing to make that investment. Taking repeated red cards for something like this is stupid.

-B :)

[glowstix]

Originally Posted by Bokken

How are the letters supposed to be oriented on the leg, IE should the name be read horizontally or vertically?

usually, letters are oriented horizontally; its better. i've seen it done vertically though but thats by people with short names.

[DHCJr]

Originally Posted by Bokken

Great. I'm sure that writing the name on the leg works for those of you with short last names, but for people like me...my last name would take up the entire knicker leg if I used a 9cm high stencil.

How are the letters supposed to be oriented on the leg, IE should the name be read horizontally or vertically?

As they stated most are put horizontal. But even if it was vertical, there is no rule how wide the letters must be. In fact, when the Marx do the lettering it is adjusted for the length of the name. I know a lady who hyphenated her last name when she got married and she is on the thin side. Those letters are very skinny and very legal.