glue

[Portela]

ok, i just bought some glue and the nozzle head is too big to put directly onto my blade. how do i put the glue on now?

P.S.-its my first time re-wiring a blade

[mrbiggs]

Originally Posted by Portela

ok, i just bought some glue and the nozzle head is too big to put directly onto my blade. how do i put the glue on now?

P.S.-its my first time re-wiring a blade

Wow, I've been having this problem for awhile.

Wait, what weapon is this? If foil, do you mean in the little groove, or on the blade at all? Is this like a REALLY bigg nozzle head?

[Portela]

well, i was trying to put glue in the groove but the nozzle is too big to put directly into the groove. if I were to try, it would get all over my blade

the nozzle is 1/8 of an inche wide

[glowstix]

what type of glue is that?? i've only re-wired two epees myself but what i do is put a bit of glue first, then place the wire, then put some more glue and run my finger along the blade to spread the glue evenly. if you're doing a foil, i think it can work the same way.

[Portela]

Originally Posted by glowstix

what type of glue is that?? i've only re-wired two epees myself but what i do is put a bit of glue first, then place the wire, then put some more glue and run my finger along the blade to spread the glue evenly. if you're doing a foil, i think it can work the same way.

I would do the same, but the nozzle is 1/8 of an inch wide, so it would just cover my blade. also im not really fond of the idea of spreading superglue with my finger.

[glowstix]

Originally Posted by Portela

I would do the same, but the nozzle is 1/8 of an inch wide, so it would just cover my blade. also im not really fond of the idea of spreading superglue with my finger.

don't use superglue, NOT SUPERGLUE.. i've found that when it dries, it cracks and eventually the wire pops up with the dried glue. get fencing specific glue. it takes longer to dry but i think its better. and yes, super glue and fingers don't mix well.

[Portela]

its not super glue, its silicon bonding stuff from a hardware store. It should work fine. anyways...back to my nozzle/applying problem. What do u think

[The Armourer]

Think the solution is pretty basic myself - buy a new tube of glue. I do loads of rewires but only ever buy the smallest sized tube of glue for two reasons - it keeps fresh and the nozzle is usually narrower. If its one of those nozzles you cut off a bit to open take care just to chop off the very tip.

[rsy]

Hobby shops sell (or even give away) a replacement tip that screws onto the end of a large-opening tube of glue. The replacement tip narrows to the finest point and you cut it off at the appropriate spot to get the right width.

-r

[mrbiggs]

I bought fencing glue, and for some reason the nozzle is huge. (Maybe it's epee only. Or something.) I just use a nail to get as much of it as possible into the groove, then when it dies, I scrape the excess off with a box cutter.

[Portela]

good idea, thanks

[neevel]

If it's a slow-curing cement (Duco, Cementit, etc.) you'll want to bottom glue-- run a bead down the groove first, then run the wire down into the groove (I find the edge of a plastic dish-scraper to be a great tool for this). When the wire goes into the groove, it will push the glue down with it. Then top glue, and wipe the excess glue away with a paper towel. Once cured, you can scrape off any glue that' still outside the groove with a knife.

Glow- if you're having problems with wires popping out with superglue, you're probably not cleaning and prepping the blade well enough prior to glung. I and many other experienced armorers use cyanoacrylates routinely for gluing (Zap CA is what I normally use), and don't have trouble with it.

-Dave

[glowstix]

Originally Posted by neevel

Glow- if you're having problems with wires popping out with superglue, you're probably not cleaning and prepping the blade well enough prior to glung. I and many other experienced armorers use cyanoacrylates routinely for gluing (Zap CA is what I normally use), and don't have trouble with it.

-Dave

i've bought fencing specific glue and its been working really well. i just finished a second successful re-wiring job. the problem i've had with the super glue is that when it dries it tends to become flaky. i've never actually used to do a re-wire from scratch; only to repair wires that are popping but still works fine.

[mrbiggs]

Originally Posted by mrbiggs

I bought fencing glue, and for some reason the nozzle is huge. (Maybe it's epee only. Or something.) I just use a nail to get as much of it as possible into the groove, then when it dries, I scrape the excess off with a box cutter.

EDIT: "dries", not "dies".

Wait, why can't I edit that post?

[neevel]

Originally Posted by glowstix

i've bought fencing specific glue and its been working really well. i just finished a second successful re-wiring job. the problem i've had with the super glue is that when it dries it tends to become flaky. i've never actually used to do a re-wire from scratch; only to repair wires that are popping but still works fine.

Superglue on a wire that's popping out generally has to be looked at as short-term fix. If it's popping out, it's usually because the there was something off in the original wiring job (such as the groove not being sufficiently clean so the new glue doesn't make a clean bond), or because the wire has become stretched. Either way, patching it down with superglue won't hold the wire down forever.

-Dave