Various effects of Various Weapons on Various Objects

[esskreemr]

Or: Guys hitting stuff with other stuff:

sword vs melon
rapier vs pork shoulder
bastard sword vs mail
etc

http://www.thearma.org/Videos/NTCvid...dmaterials.htm

[dunastor]

Brought to you by the Society for Hitting Things with Sharp Metal Things

I love these guys!!!...

[Gav]

There was a good series about warfare on Channel 4 here a while back. If you can find it, look up "Arms and Armour". Very good. They lots of stuff like this. Great moments: demonstration of a Brit cavalry sword slicing a melon (from horseback on charge), Slow mo' of Long Bow hitting various bits of armour and demonstration of what Roman Cavalry were expected to be able to do (and they didn't have stirrups!). All very interesting. What was really interesting was that most people patently have no idea how to use a cavalry sword on horse back.

[Gav]

Oh yeah and before I forget...

There was another show called "2 men in a trench" - 2 archaeologists got to fire a musket into armour [over ballistic gel] so that they could demonstrate the internal shockwave that the musket ball created - nasty.

And finally, in another show [whose name currently escapes me] they demonstrated how nasty a polearm was. THey hand made a plate cuirass mounted it on some of this ballistic gel stuff and then showed how much a mess of your intenal organs it made even though it didn't penetrate the armour. Yuck.

[Gav]

Oh yeah and another thing I just remembered. On Arms and Armour (although I knew this before I saw the show) they dispelled the myth about plate armour being cumbersome. An armoury demonstrator from the Royal armoury did cartwheels in his full suit of plate. Very funny sight.

[esskreemr]

Oh yeah and another thing I just remembered. On Arms and Armour (although I knew this before I saw the show) they dispelled the myth about plate armour being cumbersome. An armoury demonstrator from the Royal armoury did cartwheels in his full suit of plate. Very funny sight.

I think I saw that. The guy said that it would have been suicide to wear armor that didn't allow near full articulation of every joint. He demonstrated by doing forward rolls in a full suit of armor. Wish I had a suit of armor I didn't mind scuffing up by doing gymnastics...

[HillBilly]

I wish I had some armor period... imagine walking down main street!? It'd be uber-cool.

[cowpaste]

All the guys in the video are white and slightly overweight. Talk about D&D/SCA stereotype....

[KShan5[PrFC]]

All I'm getting is audio.

[BrianH]

Three cheers for archaeology shows.

RAH RAH and RAH

[Purple Fencer]

I think I saw that. The guy said that it would have been suicide to wear armor that didn't allow near full articulation of every joint. He demonstrated by doing forward rolls in a full suit of armor. Wish I had a suit of armor I didn't mind scuffing up by doing gymnastics...

I rememeber that, too. The example that chilled my blood the most was the poor owner of the mideval skull they held up.

The guy had taken a mace to the head and a sword cut on the skull as well -- both determined to be mortal in their own right -- but he'd ALSO taken a direct sword hit to his face....right between the upper lip and the nose. His entire upper jaw was severed, and the only thinkg that kept his head intact was the helm he;d been wearing.

[Soldier]

All I'm getting is audio.

You'll need to get new DivX drivers.

[riceboy]

Or: Guys hitting stuff with other stuff:

sword vs melon
rapier vs pork shoulder
bastard sword vs mail
etc

http://www.thearma.org/Videos/NTCvid...dmaterials.htm

Ahh, I love the ARMA... Kinda like the lowest common denominator in the Western Martial Arts world...

That said, the cutting of inanimate objects with sharp swords is really a usefull training tool. Understanding how the real weapons cut, and the correct body mechanics to make a solid cut can be invaluable, especially in the more historical styles. (Though using an actual civil war sabre to cut, is a treat!)

For more ARMA love, how about their rapier fencing videos in:
http://www.thearma.org/Videos/TPVideos.htm
"Ready... go! tink-tink-tink ... grapple and roll about!!!"

Honestly, rapier is not the ARMA's specialty, and this is not what 90% of Western Martial Artists look like when bouting with rapiers. The Coup d'groin one is really funny though.

[riceboy]

All the guys in the video are white and slightly overweight. Talk about D&D/SCA stereotype....

I would point out the number of very skilled martial artists who happen to be a little overweight. The number of very good sensei, who are quite heavy, but nonetheless very, very strong, is always surprising(not to mention sumo wrestlers). Being increadibly thin and with muscles of wire, does not make you, by definition a better martial artist.

Western Martial Arts tends to attract the people who's history it comes from (white people). There are not many minorities in WMA, but there's really nothing stopping them. Heck, I'm Japanese american, my grandfather did Judo and Kendo, and I study 17th century Italian Rapier Manuals.

I'm not going to get into the business of defencing the ARMA,or more specificaly their leader John Clements(who is in fact short, thin and muscled like wire), but the idea that to be a martial artist you have to be thin, light and fast, is in many ways a falicy.