Epee double touches -- something you pursue?

[Victor]

I'm pretty sure we've covered this before, but the board's composition has changed since then.

Do you actively attempt to score with tactical choices that are more likely to result in a double-touch even though such actions also increase the risk of losing a single-touch result to your opponent?

Or in other words, you make the conscious choice, "Yeah, I think I can end this with a double-touch..."?

To get the ball rolling: What a bunch of hooey! You wanna win, you don't move to double-out on purpose. Anyone who says otherwise is a three-eyed snorgbottom.

[D+F+P=Hadouken!]

I'm pretty sure we've covered this before, but the board's composition has changed since then.

Do you actively attempt to score with tactical choices that are more likely to result in a double-touch even though such actions also increase the risk of losing a single-touch result to your opponent?

Or in other words, you make the conscious choice, "Yeah, I think I can end this with a double-touch..."?

To get the ball rolling: What a bunch of hooey! You wanna win, you don't move to double-out on purpose. Anyone who says otherwise is a three-eyed snorgbottom.

I base my strategical choices on strip by the situation. If I'm up by a really good margin, I'll opt to go for the doube touch. If I'm on the losing end, I'll try that much harder not to get a double touch. If it looks like your opponent is going to get the single, try to get a double out of it.

[glowstix]

I'm pretty sure we've covered this before, but the board's composition has changed since then.

Do you actively attempt to score with tactical choices that are more likely to result in a double-touch even though such actions also increase the risk of losing a single-touch result to your opponent?

Or in other words, you make the conscious choice, "Yeah, I think I can end this with a double-touch..."?

To get the ball rolling: What a bunch of hooey! You wanna win, you don't move to double-out on purpose. Anyone who says otherwise is a three-eyed snorgbottom.

funny you mention this now...this past weekend, my failure to carry out this strategy cost me my C04...

[keith]

I base my strategical choices on strip by the situation. If I'm up by a really good margin, I'll opt to go for the doube touch. If I'm on the losing end, I'll try that much harder not to get a double touch. If it looks like your opponent is going to get the single, try to get a double out of it.

sorry, but in a bout where you have the tactical edge and are winning you opt for a change of tactics. Not only that a change that will increase the odds of your opponent getting points

ya great loon.

[telkanuru]

A double touch is only desireable as a 2nd intention if you are about to be hit; that is, a double touch is only desireable over a single light going the other way. Anything else is lazy.

[achilleus]

I chose the last option.

The answer is rather simple. It really depends on the situation (your opponent, the score, the round of the event, the purpose of the bout, etc...).

I've used the doubling out tactic. It has it's place.

[epeezack]

Or in other words, you make the conscious choice, "Yeah, I think I can end this with a double-touch..."?

Hell no.
I try to exicute my best attack to finish the bout.
I try to get a double touch when things go south in a hurry

[D+F+P=Hadouken!]

sorry, but in a bout where you have the tactical edge and are winning you opt for a change of tactics. Not only that a change that will increase the odds of your opponent getting points

ya great loon.

my my... apparently someone does not like my strategy.

[Victor]

my my... apparently someone does not like my strategy.

Yeah.
Ya great loon.

(heh. I like that.)

[noodle]

indeed, i also chose #3.

doubling out is worthless if i'm behind
but if i'm ahead i'll double out as much as i can (pref. one lights but still).

[Victor]

For the record, I never suggested or even hinted that anyone would be so stupid as to move for a double-touch if they were behind. So a lot of your comments (and related poll choices) are off the mark, so to speak -- as you've elaborated, yes, you ARE OK with a double-touch.

Me? I'm never OK with trying to get a double touch, even when I'm far ahead. A double should be an accidental bonus for the defender, not something you give him just to close up the bout.

[achilleus]

For the record, I never suggested or even hinted that anyone would be so stupid as to move for a double-touch if they were behind. So a lot of your comments (and related poll choices) are off the mark, so to speak -- as you've elaborated, yes, you ARE OK with a double-touch.

Me? I'm never OK with trying to get a double touch, even when I'm far ahead. A double should be an accidental bonus for the defender, not something you give him just to close up the bout.

Early DE, I'm way ahead, I want to conserve energy for a later bout. Doubling out has it's place.

[Tomas N]

A double touch is only desireable as a 2nd intention if you are about to be hit; that is, a double touch is only desireable over a single light going the other way. Anything else is lazy.

Laziness or conserving strength for a future bout? If I'm up 10-5 and my opponent is willing to do the same action 5 times in a row that leads to 5 double touches, I am a happy man.

Tomas

[D+F+P=Hadouken!]

For the record, I never suggested or even hinted that anyone would be so stupid as to move for a double-touch if they were behind. So a lot of your comments (and related poll choices) are off the mark, so to speak -- as you've elaborated, yes, you ARE OK with a double-touch.

Me? I'm never OK with trying to get a double touch, even when I'm far ahead. A double should be an accidental bonus for the defender, not something you give him just to close up the bout.

When your in the lead, a double touch doesnt help your opponent. All it does is put pressure on him, which is detrimental to his game.

[noodle]

For the record, I never suggested or even hinted that anyone would be so stupid as to move for a double-touch if they were behind. So a lot of your comments (and related poll choices) are off the mark, so to speak -- as you've elaborated, yes, you ARE OK with a double-touch.

Me? I'm never OK with trying to get a double touch, even when I'm far ahead. A double should be an accidental bonus for the defender, not something you give him just to close up the bout.

you're looking at it from the wrong angle. i would much rather get a double touch than a single touch scored against me. under any circumstances.

[ls14evar]

When Im up by a good margin in DE's and close to winning (say above 10 at least) Ill consider taking actions that will result in doubles.

When Im at 14-X and up at least a few, I could care less if I double.

earlier in bouts, or pools, its far too risky unless you know you dont have any chance of scoring another way. (E fencing an A for example, might have more luck with doubles than trying exclusively for singles.)
-B

[DangerMouse]

If I have the lead, especially if the bout is close, I just make sure my point will hit and I don't worry if theirs will.

[mrbiggs]

If I'm up points, and I know I can, I will.

[nahouw]

you're looking at it from the wrong angle. i would much rather get a double touch than a single touch scored against me. under any circumstances.

You're looking at it at the wrong angle. Take the case of a touch that is scored in epee, 1 light for your opponent, but your equipment is proved to be faulty (assuming that you chose to have the referee test it) -- under the rules, it is up to your decision to have the referee score it as a double touch, or annul the touch for your opponent. As a referee, I have had to shake my head too many times in which the fencer in question decided to accept this as a double touch -- fencers that think that double touches are good think this way, but smart fencers will always choose to annul it.

[Avanti]

If your leading with a good margin, lay back, relax and let your opponent fight for it and take the opportunity of the situation. Why not?