Yet another explaination of a Bush victory

[telkanuru]

http://pantheon.yale.edu/~fjl4/1.JPG

Although I must say that the dismissal of ashcroft has given me a shadow of a hope for the second term. We'll see who he's replaced with.

[noodle]

saw the webpage this was based on the day after the election.
no suprises here, my state isn't 48th in the nation in education for no good reason. most people here can't even speak english correctly and even me still don't does it right, do me?

[D+F+P=Hadouken!]

http://pantheon.yale.edu/~fjl4/1.JPG

Although I must say that the dismissal of ashcroft has given me a shadow of a hope for the second term. We'll see who he's replaced with.

TOM CLANCY!!!!!

[Westley]

The writer of The West Wing. Those are the guys we need in office.

[lochinvar]

I vote for the Lone Ranger.

[S. Hunter]

One name: Michael Badnarik :-D

[neevel]

Reminds me of the line by Adlai Stevenson when a lady told him that he had the support of every thinking American:

"That's not enough, ma'am-- I need a majority."

[mrbiggs]

Wow! I was thinking today "boy, I bet that if I did a map of states by IQ, then a map of the elctoral college, they'd look very similar". And here we go.

I'm so proud of myself.

[Inquartata]

Read the footnote at the bottom of the chart, folks...

[Gav]

Inq' of course they are going to post a disclaimer - it's based on a statisical analysis.

Apparently, if you compare the numbers of graduates across the states you get roughly the same table.

I'm going to add that I don't hold much faith in IQ myself.

Anyway, here is a link to a supplementary article:

http://chrisevans3d.com/files/iq.htm

[Inquartata]

These are what bothered me:

"The IQ data was originally attributed to the book "IQ and the Wealth of Nations", though I checked and couldn't find them in the current edition".

Meaning the data cannot be checked.

"this does not mean it should be taken as fact".

Er....


"The Economist could not independently verify the IQ data"


Worse and worse.

I suspect that if it gets enough play it will eventually turn up on snopes, like several previous attempts to impute stupidity to Bush and Bush supporters.

[Gav]

If you read the article that I posted there is some mention of all of this and even a link to a republican site that debunks it.

[telkanuru]

Well, thanks for taking it as a joke, as usual. I think something is up when we see that the average person in mississippi is borderline retarded.

[Gav]

Telkarnu,

I had the same problem when I posted the article about Bush being wired.

[esskreemr]

I'm going to add that I don't hold much faith in IQ myself.

Why not? It's an excellent indicator of white maleness

[Tomas N]

What exactly is IQ supposed to measure? If it's native intelligence, it can't be doing a very good job if there are wide variations (or really any variations) across states.

Tomas

[lochinvar]

Why not? It's an excellent indicator of white maleness

I guess I'm in trouble, then, seeing how my wife scores several points higher than I do...

[jBirch]

Heck, we need at least one credible conspiracy theory on a thread with this name...

http://www.securityfocus.com/archive...7/2004-11-13/2

[Inquartata]

If you read the article that I posted there is some mention of all of this and even a link to a republican site that debunks it.

Yes, which is a good thing. But fairness on the author's part doesn't rescue the hypothesis from its faults. If the data's questionable, it's still questionable after the author admits as much....

Additionally, the Raven's APM ( not "APT" ) yields percentile ranks, not IQ "scores" on the Stanford-Binet scale. How was the conversion done?

How many persons in each state were tested? Was it a random sample? If so, why, as a part of the APM is intended only for persons of above-average intellectual ability....

[Westley]

Inq, did you check CNN.com on election day? It had tons of exit polling, for every state, although I admit, it did lean Kerry for some reason. Which was mentioned in the Daily Show.