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    Best bodycords?

    hey, I'm looking for some bodycords that will last long between repairs, are easy to fix, and are a good price. What do you people reccomend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by D+F+P=Hadouken!
    hey, I'm looking for some bodycords that will last long between repairs, are easy to fix, and are a good price. What do you people reccomend?
    Oh, I got just the thing.

    It's a new bodycord being sold by Allstar.

    It's part of their new line of equipment. They also now have FIE blades that will never break, never get a nasty bend, are lightweight, and cost only $5 a blade. I believe the equipment is manufactured in a factory in a ice covered town that is known as 'Hell'


    You can't get all 3 of those qualities in one package.
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    i reccomend you push for the wireless system

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    Hm...am not sure of the manufacturer (PBT?) but the best ones IMHO are the ones where the wires are separated from each other (as in not "melted" together) and are sort of braided. Easier to repair WHEN - not if! - they break.
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    The new Negrini wire seems like it will last a long time. Haven't tried it long enough to be sure.

    P.S. Noodle, you still need a body cord for wireless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by achilleus
    Oh, I got just the thing.

    It's a new bodycord being sold by Allstar.

    It's part of their new line of equipment. They also now have FIE blades that will never break, never get a nasty bend, are lightweight, and cost only $5 a blade. I believe the equipment is manufactured in a factory in a ice covered town that is known as 'Hell'


    You can't get all 3 of those qualities in one package.
    That qualifies for funniest post ever.
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    Negrini's do last longer than many others. I use those almost exclusively. LP's aren't bad either
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    Quote Originally Posted by DHCJr
    The new Negrini wire seems like it will last a long time. Haven't tried it long enough to be sure.

    P.S. Noodle, you still need a body cord for wireless.
    i'm willing to put money on the fact that if wireless was adopted and accepted, there would be a way to phase out bodycords. until then, though, nobody would be willing to do this so body cords are still necessary, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D+F+P=Hadouken!
    hey, I'm looking for some bodycords that will last long between repairs, are easy to fix, and are a good price. What do you people reccomend?
    You get to choose 2 of those three if you actually want an answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodle
    i'm willing to put money on the fact that if wireless was adopted and accepted, there would be a way to phase out bodycords. until then, though, nobody would be willing to do this so body cords are still necessary, yes.
    By the way the FIE has accepted wireless for Sabre and they still have body cords. The problem is wireless, does not mean wireless. It actually means reel-less. You still need a wire to go from the receiver to the lights. If you eliminate the body cord and connect the receiver to the weapon directly without a body cord, you would still need a cord to go from there to the lights in the mask. Hold it, wouldn't it be simpler just to leave it the way they have the "Wireless" Sabre?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DHCJr
    By the way the FIE has accepted wireless for Sabre and they still have body cords. The problem is wireless, does not mean wireless. It actually means reel-less. You still need a wire to go from the receiver to the lights. If you eliminate the body cord and connect the receiver to the weapon directly without a body cord, you would still need a cord to go from there to the lights in the mask. Hold it, wouldn't it be simpler just to leave it the way they have the "Wireless" Sabre?
    i think its a good system for now, but i also think it can be made better. without body cords.

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    I would recommend Leon Paul. I have one that is like 3-4 years old. I have never made any repairs/adjustments to it and last weekend at a tournament, I was told by the armorer that it was the best body cord he had passed all day. <1 ohm resistance.

    Seriously, Leon Paul makes an extremely high quality body cord at a reasonable price. I will never buy anything else.

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    I used the Uhlmann for a long time, but a while back I bought one of the LP cords to test out. I have been really happy with it and have had zero trouble out of it. The wire is in fine shape and seem to be holding up really well.

    I recently was handed some gear from someone who had been out of the sport for a several years to clean up for them. One of the items was an LP cord that had seen lots of use before being packed away. I pulled it out, cleaned some of the rust/corrosion of the poles, and despite being black inside the wires from all the corrosion the damn thing still works! Resistance is to high to pass at a large tourney but it is still fine for club use. The Uhlmann and prieur wires in the bag did not work at all. Says something about the quality of the LP cords to me. And the fact that no one else from my club uses them means they are a bit easier to keep track of.

    I have heard really good things about the Negrinni wires but have not tried them out myself. I would love to hear from someone who has used them a fair bit though, or better yet if you have, please wright a review for the products section.
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    Breakability also has a good deal to do with *you*. I just did my first fix on my BG budget (blue) epee wire, and I've had it for the entire time I've been fencing. It's a crap cord, surely, but are you going to tell me 2 years of no fixing isn't a good thing? Again, don't put undue stress on the wire, etc., and whatever cord you choose will last a goodly time.
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    If we are talking epee body cords I use the orange Prieur but own several others. Epee cords hardly ever break. For some reason I was thinking foil cords, which seem to break the second time I use them, and every other time thereafter. Priuer, LP, Uhlmann, BG I have used them all for epee and they are all still working so I can't really say one is better than another, except to say that I like the low profile of the LP and Prieur cords but they seem to get stuck in cheap sockets like the BG ones. Still, the LP and Prieur are my favorite for epee.

    One thing about the LP and Prieur epee cords is that I have heard, although not experianced myself, is that the plastic block on the inside can be damaged if you whack it really hard against something. I never find myself hurling my epee cords like bolas at fleeing opponants or flogging bad judges with my cords (although the thought comes to me often) but if you do you may wish to chose one of the more rough and tumble designs like the Uhlmann. The problem with that style is that it is just a pain to take the clamshells apart for repairs and there are all those little screws to lose (epee humor).
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodle
    i think its a good system for now, but i also think it can be made better. without body cords.
    And then maybe we can get rid of those annoying blades next.

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    I'm going on 3-4 years of heavy use (~100 days/year) without having repaired my latest body cord (i have two identical ones but only use one). This is after going through all sorts of other body cords (i think i have about 10 spare cords that i finally got around to being able to invest the time in fixing after I got these maitnence free ones). The secret, you might ask? I made them. I used braided speaker cable (take the monstercable from radioshack, put it into individual strangs and braid) and LP plugs (from dead body cords).

    I've gotten a few laughs for them - until i leant one out to somebody for a month and he had no problems with it - he was amazed.

    It's easy to do if you have the supplies lying around, but I don't remember what it'd cost to get the parts for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prototoast
    I would recommend Leon Paul. I have one that is like 3-4 years old. I have never made any repairs/adjustments to it and last weekend at a tournament, I was told by the armorer that it was the best body cord he had passed all day. <1 ohm resistance.

    Seriously, Leon Paul makes an extremely high quality body cord at a reasonable price. I will never buy anything else.

    Which body cord is it that you purchased? I have almost purchased exclusively from LP and have been extremely impressed with most of the gear. Just getting into electric I would love to know which one this is,
    thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calder
    Which body cord is it that you purchased? I have almost purchased exclusively from LP and have been extremely impressed with most of the gear. Just getting into electric I would love to know which one this is,
    thanks.
    I fence sabre and I use the LP bayonet body cord. It is their specialty, though if you fence epee, I assume their epee cords to be of similar quality. I don't know about their 2-prong cords, though I assume them to be very good as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prototoast
    I don't know about their 2-prong cords, though I assume them to be very good as well.
    Thier two prong cords rock. In my experiance they are beter, last longer and are cheaper than the Uhlmann.
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