^%$# Preiur sockets!

[Purple Fencer]

Hokay, here's another ??? for the armorers.

I don't mind wiring weapons with an Uhlmann two prong socket for foil, nor to the bayonet sockets give me problems. But those Prieur style ones!!!!

Aside form the fact that they curve the wrong way to easily get access to the wire nut...can anyone tell me an easier way to attach the wire, short of prayer? The design has nuts so thin, tou can;t get a hold on then with a wrench or pliers!

[damianip]

Originally posted by Purple Fencer:
<STRONG>Hokay, here's another ??? for the armorers.

I don't mind wiring weapons with an Uhlmann two prong socket for foil, nor to the bayonet sockets give me problems. But those Prieur style ones!!!!

Aside form the fact that they curve the wrong way to easily get access to the wire nut...can anyone tell me an easier way to attach the wire, short of prayer? The design has nuts so thin, tou can;t get a hold on then with a wrench or pliers!</STRONG>

Use the same socket wrench you would use for outside hex pommel nuts. Works like a charm.

Actually, Prieur sockets care be pretty handy. Since the plug is bi-directional, you can set the socket up to work with both Prieur and German plugs. Very useful for club weapons.

As a general rule, a hemostat is handy for any wiring job. It allows me to free up a hand after wrapping the wire around the socket screw. I can then use the socket wrench or screwdiver to tighten it up.

Paolo

[Purple Fencer]

Originally posted by damianip:
<STRONG>

Use the same socket wrench you would use for outside hex pommel nuts. Works like a charm.

Actually, Prieur sockets care be pretty handy. Since the plug is bi-directional, you can set the socket up to work with both Prieur and German plugs. Very useful for club weapons.

As a general rule, a hemostat is handy for any wiring job. It allows me to free up a hand after wrapping the wire around the socket screw. I can then use the socket wrench or screwdiver to tighten it up.

Paolo</STRONG>

Are we talking about the same design? The ones I'm talking about do have a decent sized hex nut on the underside. It's the top side that's the problem. The nut's buried in a rubber insulator, and I just can't get hold of it.

What's a hemostat? I now it's a piecce of medical equipment, but beyond that...

[damianip]

OK,

A picture is worth a thousand words (even these crappy ones).

Some views of the socket:



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and



The wrench goes on like so:



The wrench and the hemostat look like this:



A close-up of a hemostat locked on a wire:




Does this help at all?

Paolo

[neevel]

I use a pair of bent-nose pliers to tighten the nut, and bent-tip tweezers to wrap the bare wire around the threaded shaft before tighening. A small automotive timing wrench will also work to get in there. Remember to wrap the wire going the same direction as you turn the nut to tighten it.

-Dave

[damianip]

Originally posted by neevel:
<STRONG>I use a pair of bent-nose pliers to tighten the nut, and bent-tip tweezers to wrap the bare wire around the threaded shaft before tighening. A small automotive timing wrench will also work to get in there. Remember to wrap the wire going the same direction as you turn the nut to tighten it.

-Dave</STRONG>

I agree with Dave on the ignition wrench for the lower nut. It's much easier than trying to get an adjustable in there, although you can bend the socket around a bit and squeeze it in there if you need to.

I use the hemostat where he would use the tweezer. It allows me to let it dangle to hold the wire in place, giving me that essential third hand (I need all the hands I can get).

Paolo

[Purple Fencer]

Originally posted by damianip:
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I agree with Dave on the ignition wrench for the lower nut. It's much easier than trying to get an adjustable in there, although you can bend the socket around a bit and squeeze it in there if you need to.

I use the hemostat where he would use the tweezer. It allows me to let it dangle to hold the wire in place, giving me that essential third hand (I need all the hands I can get).

Paolo</STRONG>

Thanks! I'll definitely give these a try.

Yep, that's ther socket I'm talking about. The only differance is the top nut on the ones I've been given have been so narrow, I doubt I could get a wrench around them. There's barely anything sticking out above the insulator.

Hokay, NOW I know what a hemostat is. I've seen them before, but didn't know the name.

I guess the major reason I prefer the Uhlmann type is simply because they don't curve back on themselves the way the Preiurs do...I can get to the bottom nuts from outside the weapon and/or fron different angles if I need to. Can't really do that with the Priuer.