11-01-2004, 09:59 PM
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#1 | | No, your mom's a lemur
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| Unsafe practices.
I don't understand. What is the big deal with Gay Marriage? Everyone gets so fumed over Gay Marriage, who cares? People say that if it keeps happening, pretty soon they could be doing all sorts of things? What the hell does that mean? Today Gay Marriage. Tomorrow they'll be marrying doing satanic rituals with our children! It doesn't make sense. If you want to marry a Llama, you should be able to Marry a Llama. As long as the Llama gives it's consent. So seriously, what's the isssue? | 
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11-01-2004, 10:53 PM
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#2 | | Senior Member
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| Fundamentalist Ultra-Conservative Christians
It's my opinion, if i have offended, then i apologize, as i said it's my opinion and i live in america dam*it
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11-01-2004, 11:24 PM
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#3 | | No, your mom's a lemur
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Originally Posted by The Mormegil Fundamentalist Ultra-Conservative Christians
It's my opinion, if i have offended, then i apologize, as i said it's my opinion and i live in america dam*it | (applause) | |
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11-01-2004, 11:27 PM
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| thank you, i try to be honest with myself, and everyone else
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11-01-2004, 11:34 PM
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#5 | | No, your mom's a lemur
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| But seriously, what's the deal? Anyone here have a prob with gay Marriage? | |
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11-02-2004, 01:24 AM
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#6 | | Senior Member
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| Yeah, I have a problem - neither of the grooms could possibly look that good in a wedding dress.
By which I actually mean, no, I have no problem, and I am proud that my city offers licenses to all consenting adults wishing to be married. | |
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11-02-2004, 02:37 AM
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| I have no problem with gay marriage. I just have a problem with marrying llamas (and any other animal) *roll eyes* but of course, I'm assuming that was a joke, right Westley? Heheheheh!
Homosexuality isn't about sex, it's an emotional thing. People just have a problem with it often because of their culture or religion, and homosexuality, technically, goes against nature's "plan" for humans. The only reason we (or any other organism for that matter) have a gender is because we were intended to procreate. Of course, throughout evolution, we have advanced further than the rest of the natural world in the emotional and mental sense; therefore, that means we are able to develop more complex and abstract thoughts and feelings that are beyond the boundaries of nature. So, those who are against homosexuality, in my oh-so-humble opinion, are primitive barbarians.
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11-02-2004, 04:32 AM
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| Call me a barbarian then because I'm against marriage between two fencers.
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11-02-2004, 04:34 AM
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#9 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
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| I have a problem with it.
Marriage confers a lot---a LOT---of status advantages and financial perks. Advantages for which the remaining unmarried members of society have to pck up the slack, and perks for which singles have to pay. When they repeal all those goodies, I'll support your right to marry a llama. Not before. | |
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11-02-2004, 06:17 AM
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#10 | | Immortal
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Originally Posted by Inquartata I have a problem with it.
Marriage confers a lot---a LOT---of status advantages and financial perks. Advantages for which the remaining unmarried members of society have to pck up the slack, and perks for which singles have to pay. When they repeal all those goodies, I'll support your right to marry a llama. Not before. | So you're not really against gay marriage, you're against marriage period (or at least marriage having societal benefits accruing to it).
Bit of a rhetorical question really, given your avowed bachelorhood....
MR
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11-02-2004, 07:07 AM
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| There are so many beautiful women around. Why would any guy want to look for love up another guys *** and then marry him too? The gays are losers. | |
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11-02-2004, 09:41 AM
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| Why complain, RL. My attitude is that it just helps the odds for all the straight guys.
Seriously - people should mind their own business and not worry about what other people are doing, and the reality is that there are many gay-couple families that are just as much families as any hetero-couple families. Rights for one should be rights for the latter. But, we've done this subject a few hundred times before...
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11-02-2004, 01:03 PM
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| You forget that there are also lesbians. I think there are more lesbians than gays too. After all, women are so beautiful. :P Therefore I think homosexuality actually lowers my odds. Dang it!
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11-02-2004, 01:24 PM
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| What's the Woody Allen joke? "Bisexuals have a 50% better chance of getting a date on Saturday night" 
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11-02-2004, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by The Mormegil Fundamentalist Ultra-Conservative Christians
It's my opinion, if i have offended, then i apologize, as i said it's my opinion and i live in america dam*it | Some people take issue with gay marriage from a religious point of view, yes.
They live in America, too. So deal with it. | |
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11-02-2004, 02:31 PM
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| Perhaps those people shouldn't enter into homosexual marriages... but others aren't bound by their religion
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11-02-2004, 02:40 PM
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#17 | | Din Älskling
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Originally Posted by Soldier Some people take issue with gay marriage from a religious point of view, yes.
They live in America, too. So deal with it. | The Catholics don't acknowledge any marriage that is not consecrated in the Catholic Church. Should we all take their "point of view"?
The mormons feel that they should be allowed to take as many wives as they can support. Should we all take their "point of view"?
The Muslims feel that everybody should pray 5 times a day. Should we all take their view?
Hindus feel that eating beef is a sacriligeous act. Should we all take their view?
The Muslims and the Jewish feel that eating pork is against the will of God. Should we take their view?
Scientologists? Wanna take their view? Raelians? Satanists? Wiccan? Vampirism?
Pick a cult, they all live in America. How are you going to deal with it?
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11-02-2004, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by esskreemr The Catholics don't acknowledge any marriage that is not consecrated in the Catholic Church. Should we all take their "point of view"? |
Some Catholics, not all. I support gay marriage.
I don't feel that this position conflicts with my faith. Religion is a personal choice. I don't see why the choices that are wrong for me may not be right for someone else.
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11-02-2004, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by esskreemr The Catholics don't acknowledge any marriage that is not consecrated in the Catholic Church. Should we all take their "point of view"?
The mormons feel that they should be allowed to take as many wives as they can support. Should we all take their "point of view"?
The Muslims feel that everybody should pray 5 times a day. Should we all take their view?
Hindus feel that eating beef is a sacriligeous act. Should we all take their view?
The Muslims and the Jewish feel that eating pork is against the will of God. Should we take their view?
Scientologists? Wanna take their view? Raelians? Satanists? Wiccan? Vampirism?
Pick a cult, they all live in America. How are you going to deal with it? | Not in the way The Mormegil above did: "They're wrong and I know I'm right and I know how to piss people off and you can't do anything about it so nyah!"
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11-02-2004, 03:55 PM
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#20 | | Senior Member
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| The issue is the term Marriage, which is a holy sacrament in many religions. Conferring the term marriage to the partnering between two homosexual individuals means that anyone married under religious auspices is also lumped together with them, which is repugnant to many fundamentalists (it's akin to redefining the legal term theft or murder to be something other then stealing and killing). Now, why a group of gays and lesbians don't start a church which performs these ceremonies, is beyond me. It is a workable situation, in my mind.
To get around this, we just say, civil union = marriage. Case closed. However, this is not true. Civil unions are state level legalisms, not federal ones so the term is not true. So you have to pick a different term if you want marriage not called marriage. This is the crux of the "seperate but equal" argument in Canada. Basically, it says that gay marriage has a different term but the same legal aspects. However, it also discriminates in the same manner as the educational segregation policies did in the US south. Seperate but equal doesn't cut it.
Hope this helps.
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