|
View Poll Results: Splits anyone? (Non-public) | |
Yes
|    | 30 | 18.29% | |
No
|    | 124 | 75.61% | |
Maybe / Never tried / Other-please specify
|    | 10 | 6.10% |
11-01-2004, 12:22 AM
|
#1 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: In mid lunge
Posts: 804
| Can you do the splits? I personally can't do the splits, nor do I have confidence to say that I can spell it properly, but have noticed several fencers who can. Amongst them, this increased flexibility seems to help some, but for others, I can't really tell the difference. So just curious, and in a serious-fencing, non water-cooler way, who amongst us can do it? 
__________________ Heaven is where the police are British, the chefs Italian, the mechanics are German, the lovers are French, and its all organized by the Swiss. Hell is where the police are German, the chefs are British, the mechanics are French, the lovers are Swiss, and it's all organized by the Italians. "I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered" George Best |
| | | And now for this message... | |
11-01-2004, 01:06 AM
|
#2 | | Just Joined
Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: usa
Posts: 12
| I can do the splits and for me I notice I can lunge deep and far but I dont like to do that too often, the deeper the lunge the harder to recoup from it. I dont think it is important I think as long as you watch your distance and you have explosive lunges that is enough. |
| |
11-01-2004, 02:49 AM
|
#3 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ithaca, NY
Posts: 1,012
| I agree with Dmitri.
I voted no, dispite having done the splits completely by accident once during a DE bout. I lunged and landed my leading foot on the other dude's leading foot. He was in the process of retreating and, as he jerked his foot away, took mine with it and resulted in me doing the splits for the first time in my life. Whooo, ouch.
__________________
The solution to your problem is to fence another weapon.
|
| |
11-01-2004, 03:00 AM
|
#4 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chicago-land
Posts: 227
| Like all the way to the ground? heck no.
Im more flexible than I was before fencing, but I got a lot of tendon stretching to do before that happens.
__________________
"I live my life a bout at a time. Nothing else matters. Not the mortgage, not the store, not my team and all their bulls***. For those 15 touches or less, I am free."
|
| |
11-01-2004, 06:24 AM
|
#5 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New Zealand
Posts: 185
| Yeah I can and I do it all the time, it's really annoying I over-lunge and slide down then cant recover and I always get hit.  I used to be a gymnast so that might help also. Off topic- Fencing does call for gymnastic talent not only in the splits department- try fleching, only the cord in the reel is too short and it snaps, you go barreling forward and someone is sitting on the ground, to avoid them you do a dive roll over them... my most high impact point ever pity I didnt score double points for artistic impression. 
__________________
"The pen may be mightier than the sword - except for in a duel."
"I had to get up in the morning at 10 o'clock at night 1/2 an hour before i had to go to bed, drink a cup of sulfuric acid, work 29 hours a day down down mill unpaid and have to pay for permission to come to work and when we came home our dad and our mum would kill us and dance around on our grave singing hallelujah!"
|
| |
11-01-2004, 06:27 AM
|
#6 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 1999 Location: Australia - various
Posts: 2,756
| I cant get to the ground, but can get fairly far down on the Pilates reformer. Thats side splits. (Legs going to either side of your body) No way in heck can I do front splits (one leg in front one behind) properly.
__________________ You may love me but you dont accept me. I dont want your love without your acceptance.
Last edited by Zelda; 11-01-2004 at 08:16 AM.
|
| |
11-01-2004, 07:19 AM
|
#7 | | Immortal
Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Heidelberg, GE
Posts: 5,445
| I can do the front splits, but can't get anywhere near the side splits (which I think are actually more useful for fencing).
MR
__________________
Why sabre? Because you don't take heads with the point.
|
| |
11-01-2004, 12:47 PM
|
#8 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Singapore
Posts: 366
| I can do front splits but can't do side splits anymore due to lack of training. I find that front splits don't actually do much for my lunge.
__________________
In Deum Veritas, In Deum Caritas
|
| |
11-01-2004, 01:34 PM
|
#9 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: TX en route to KY
Posts: 1,357
| I can do the splits. I've had problems with a slippery/dusty floor in combination with a long, fast lunge. Your front foot hits and just slides right out from under you. And you're left thinking  that THAT really didn't feel so good.
What has it done for my fencing? I will say this- I have no fear of putting my all into a long lunge. I know I wont hurt myself. As others have said, you can make a very long, very deep lunge, but it is VERY difficult to get back out of, and that can be a problem. But when someone doesn't expect you to have that kind of reach (I'm short) it takes them by surprise.
The only other thing I can think of is that the added flexibility used to allow me to contort myself into some serious pretzel shapes when infighting started. It got me a good deal of points, but I no longer do that and try to AVOID the infighting now.  |
| |
11-01-2004, 02:18 PM
|
#10 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 787
| I can't because I suck, and I keep on forgetting to "train" for it. Oh well. Anyway, lunges rely heavily on hip flexibility, and so a front split have similar elements to the lunge. The side splits rely a bunch of crotch flexibilty, which is a fun, fun thing to have, but I'm sure it doesn't help the lunge much.
__________________
"That's hot." - Paris Hilton
|
| |
11-01-2004, 02:27 PM
|
#11 | | Fencing Expert
Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Pennsauken, NJ
Posts: 8,900
| I used to have a teammate who, when much younger, had a sensei who thoguht he wasn't getting low enough when they were working on flexibility. Came over, hand on each shoulder and pushed down. Fortunately things stretched rather than tore and subsequently he was able to do splits.
When I knew him, years later, he was capable both of jumping up and landing in a full split (ow), or, if we set up a pair of benches of doing a full split such that the angle was >180degrees and he was down below the level of the benches. All without discomfort.
Didn't notice that it helped his fencing at all.
-B :)
__________________
"Oh but you can't expect to wield supreme executive power just because some watery tart threw a sword at you!"
|
| |
11-01-2004, 05:10 PM
|
#12 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Shipwrecked
Posts: 411
| I can't, but Olympic foil champ Brice Guyart pratically does the splits when he lunges. If it's good enough for him...
__________________
Blow ye winds, Like the trumpet blows; But without that noise.
|
| |
11-01-2004, 05:20 PM
|
#13 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Haydenville, MA
Posts: 1,576
| I can, and it has no influence on my fencing. The limiting factor of my lunge is how deep a lunge I can quickly recover from, not my own flexibility. |
| |
11-01-2004, 06:42 PM
|
#14 | | Senior Member
Join Date: May 2000 Location: The Reflecting God
Posts: 3,990
| Not when I fenced heavily....but now that I'm primarily a floorball goalie, I can |
| |
11-08-2004, 07:09 PM
|
#15 | | Boom!
Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada
Posts: 5,925
| Gwah... just seeing someone do the splits makes me shiver...
I'm just happy that I can touch my toes for the first time since Junior High School - if that's all I get from fencing, then I'm still ahead. |
| |
11-08-2004, 08:54 PM
|
#16 | | Fencing Expert
Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: greece
Posts: 3,362
| Quote: |
Originally Posted by MyraTrue The only other thing I can think of is that the added flexibility used to allow me to contort myself into some serious pretzel shapes when infighting started. | I was really wondering where that sentence was going...
On the other hand, I can't do the splits, nor can I do this, but it sure looks, erm, handy.
__________________ We're no threat, people, we're not dirty, we're not mean
We love everybody but we do as we please
When the weather's fine,
We go fishin' or go swimmin' in the sea
We're always happy
Life's for livin', yeah, that's our philosophy |
| |
11-08-2004, 08:57 PM
|
#17 | | Boom!
Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Canada
Posts: 5,925
| What, that guy on the left? That doesn't look too hard, a little bend in the knees is all...  |
| |
11-08-2004, 09:31 PM
|
#18 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 787
| I wish I could do THIS. Now that would be cool. I would be fencing and then BAM! You're hit by my super infighting touch!
__________________
"That's hot." - Paris Hilton
|
| |
11-08-2004, 11:29 PM
|
#19 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 5,537
| I'm able too, right down to the floor. When I did tai-chi (my sifu, who BTW was a sadistic bastard, but also a hell of a fighter) made us do both... I can remember the initial pain of him coming up behind me a pushing down fast and hard on my shoulders... I screamed so loud, but since then, I can go it without any trouble.
__________________
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. And from this side only! The flight of a half-man, half-bird. Dinosaurs nuzzling their young in pastures where strip malls should be. Cookies on dowels. All those moment, lost in time. Gone, like eggs off a hooker's stomach. Time to die" -Phil Ken Sebben
|
| |
11-09-2004, 01:15 AM
|
#20 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 1,578
| If anyone sees me doing the splits please call 911......
__________________ A friend will bail you out of jail,
a true friend will help you hide the body...: ) |
| | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | | All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:10 PM. |