Everone,

Please be informed that the flick is sill is in use.
Anyone that trained in foil in the 1980-1990 period is
well equiped to fence foil with the new timing and
using the flick. The flick as we know it from the mid
1990's is only gone in it's lightness of touch.

The Italian national team has already been seen to be
practicing the flick with a more agressive forcful
manner so time will only tell. As for me I am already
teaching what my coaches taught me in in NCAA fifteen
years ago.

For now foil is looking more like epee. As coaches
remember foil from ten to fifteen years ago and have
time to train athletes, it will take on its own unique
characteristics as it was then.

Change the game and coaches will adapt to win. The
same gripes will only be repeated.

It is important to note that at the high level the
flick was only another tool in the fencer's tool box.
The flick only accounted for a minority of points at
the international level over the last couple of years
in foil. Infighting, and the tactics of the filck in
foil, were an increase in the tactical complexity of
the the game so the new rules may not be an
improvement in the games popularity.

Making foil look like eppe with only a change in
target area and right of way could be a serious
mistake in the game. I see little value in going back
to the game as Costello described it in 1933.

Mark Howson

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> that the "flick" no longer exists. A change in
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