10-29-2004, 09:41 AM
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| Weightlifting routines Ok I just got my first set of weights but I don't know what to do with them!Are there any specific methods or techniques to use these things so that I acheive the maximum result from them?
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10-29-2004, 09:44 AM
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| More than you'll ever need to know http://www.exrx.net/Exercise.html
Thanks to Peach, who first posted this.
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10-29-2004, 09:48 AM
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| Ok.Thanks.Just curious,why does it say "Immortal" under your username? |
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10-29-2004, 10:02 AM
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| It's a comment on my unbounded ego, and a little bit of a joke on my tagline.
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10-29-2004, 01:41 PM
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| Considering your age, I would recommend getting some personal training instruction before doing a routine at home.
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10-29-2004, 04:33 PM
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| I work with a trainer on my core strength. I have been told by many coaches that core strength is the key to success in fencing. I do this through push ups, leg presses, bicep curls, bench presses and a variety of other related exercises. If you are lanky and do not have a family history of stockiness do not worry about over doing it. If you are stocky or your family is built fairly stocky then go easy on the weight lifting. Gaining too much muscle mass will tense up your wrists and make fencing much more difficult. Good luck with the training. |
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10-29-2004, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sabreur It's a comment on my unbounded ego, and a little bit of a joke on my tagline.
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10-31-2004, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by bg0687 I work with a trainer on my core strength. I have been told by many coaches that core strength is the key to success in fencing. I do this through push ups, leg presses, bicep curls, bench presses and a variety of other related exercises. If you are lanky and do not have a family history of stockiness do not worry about over doing it. If you are stocky or your family is built fairly stocky then go easy on the weight lifting. Gaining too much muscle mass will tense up your wrists and make fencing much more difficult. Good luck with the training. | Push ups, bicep curls and bench presses do not work on "core" strength.
Leg presses do, indirectly. Core strength is basically strength in your back, butt and stomach. It is fundamental to fencing--much of what we think is leg strength is actually back strength.
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10-31-2004, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by sabreur Push ups, bicep curls and bench presses do not work on "core" strength.
Leg presses do, indirectly. Core strength is basically strength in your back, butt and stomach. It is fundamental to fencing--much of what we think is leg strength is actually back strength.
MR | Actually, push-ups and that whole family of exercises are designed for core strength training. Doing them properly, keeping the hips up but not too far up, etc. is very good for the back.
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10-31-2004, 12:20 PM
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| Strength is VERY important in fencing. But you dont want to get too bulky. I would suggest mainly body weight exercises as these improve strength. eg: push ups and pull ups. The muscles on your side next to your abdoinals ( some people call it the corset) are going to make a difference to your fencing. The only muscles that realy reed bulk is the legs. |
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10-31-2004, 01:05 PM
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| Push-ups do work the core. A good exercise for the core muscles is holding yourself in almost-pushup position on just your elbows and toes, with your back straight. |
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11-03-2004, 08:47 AM
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| I stand corrected--I was thinking of push-ups as only working the arms and chest, but they do work the back as well.
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11-03-2004, 10:41 PM
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| I would personally go easy on the bicep curls because heavy bicep training
prior to a fencing bout might leave your sword arm shaking a bit.
It's a natural reaction to curling heavy, thus building lactic acid in the bicep with say, 40 pound dumbells, doing many sets.
My coach kept telling me to relax, but I couln't stop my Epee arm from shaking. Heh. I stoped doing heavy curls...
The previous advice about working your core, legs back, abs, obliques,etc. seems good to me. Especially, your explosive,fast-twitch muscles such as the one in your rear "push off" leg.
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11-03-2004, 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Twinkletoes I would personally go easy on the bicep curls because heavy bicep training prior to a fencing bout might leave your sword arm shaking a bit. | Sure. But what's that one bout, when compared to gaining strength overall? Work your arms (not just bicep curls, but wrist curls, reverse wrist curls, lateral wrists, triceps) so they're stronger when you need them for a crucial bout, but don't overdo it before an important comp. Quote: |
The previous advice about working your core, legs back, abs, obliques,etc. seems good to me. Especially, your explosive,fast-twitch muscles such as the one in your rear "push off" leg.
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11-03-2004, 11:15 PM
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| One of the folks at my club said it's a good idea to get one of those hand-exerciser-grippy things, and use them frequently, alternating with practicing disengages. He says it's good for strengthening the fingers and helps you eventually with point control and speed.
Anyone have an opinion on this? |
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11-04-2004, 06:32 AM
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| This is the first time I've ever heard about core strength.Does anyone have any links to articles on this particular topic?Thanks. |
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