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Old 10-26-2004, 02:15 PM   #1
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Fencing Lessons... online?

Anyone know where I can find something like this?

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Old 10-26-2004, 02:46 PM   #2
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that is the stupidest thing i have ever heard
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Old 10-26-2004, 02:51 PM   #3
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This the sort of thing that you are after?

http://www.fencingmaster.co.uk/
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Wow what a terrible page.
Scroll to the bottom on the left frame, click "page 2" with "cut" as one of the subsections and watch the animation that I guess supposedly shows how to cut.
Wow..
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Old 10-26-2004, 03:19 PM   #5
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don't blame him it is impossible to show actions correctly without acctually seeing them in realtime. i think the page is more to give us fencers somethine to look at when were at work/school/ anywhere but on the piste!

oh thats reminds me, what do webpages can i go to if i get bored durig spare (right now) that are fencing related. thanks
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Old 10-26-2004, 04:13 PM   #6
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Well, this probably isn't what you're looking for, but there's a coach in Cleveland who will do a video critique of your fencing. I've never done it, nor do I know the coach...

http://www.alcazarfencing.com/video_coaching.html

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Why on EARTH would you want online fencing lessons? I second that this is the stupidest idea ever.
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Well, this probably isn't what you're looking for, but there's a coach in Cleveland who will do a video critique of your fencing. I've never done it, nor do I know the coach...

http://www.alcazarfencing.com/video_coaching.html

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I started fencing at that club. The coach is Bill Reith, who many people know by reputation. He is a good coach, and his students get good results (such as Ben Solomon). His style is based on using a french grip (epee) and I've found that if you are not a product of his system (as I no longer am) then it will take a lot of lessons to really figure out how his system works.
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Old 10-26-2004, 08:33 PM   #9
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One of the best, by Strydermike:
http://www.geocities.com/strydermike/
The lessons start here:
http://www.geocities.com/fencinglessons/1.html

For coaches:
http://home.earthlink.net/~allenevans59/

Something I just found:
http://www.fencingschool.co.za/Video...st_fencing.htm
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Old 10-26-2004, 08:54 PM   #10
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I question how much one can learn on line...no matter how comprehensive it is, a webpage cannot put you through a drill and tell you when something isn't being done correctly....like if your guard drifts inside in foil or sabre.

You can get information....but find a real person to teach you.
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Old 10-26-2004, 09:02 PM   #11
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Wow, great links.

There's no way they can replace a real lesson, though. But they provide some insight on coaching and training strategies, and higher-level tactics.
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Old 10-26-2004, 09:17 PM   #12
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They can't replace real lessons, but if you study them it will surely help.
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They can't replace real lessons, but if you study them it will surely help.
As a suplement to real,live lessons and training, I see no reason why we shouldn't consider the web, interacting with a coach, as an extra training tool. This very forum is an example of fencers learning, online, from other fencers. It is quite plausible that one might take it a step further.

We already have the tech to set up real time video/audio links to coaches in a other cities, or even countries.
We can send quicktimes or Mpegs of our bouts,link up in real time.. whatever and have an expert give some insight ... from thousands of miles away.Heck, I'm paying for this broaband, might as well use it.. why not?


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Well my current problem is the coaching..not many know epee, and I'll eventually have to go out of club to get lessons. So online..the descriptions/diagrams def. help..when describing parries, terms, different techniques..as long as you have a means of enabling that training by living it and practicing it..then you should use it. Anyone saying it's stupid is simply ignorant in the means of it being applied.
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Old 10-27-2004, 01:17 AM   #15
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geez

You're all pretty sensitive and ready to cast negative names, huh?

Not really "lessons" but you know, like guides and things? I own several
fencing books, and I'd like to see some movies showing proper fencing
motions, online guides, things like that.


Thanks for the link.

Everyone chill.

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Well, this probably isn't what you're looking for, but there's a coach in Cleveland who will do a video critique of your fencing. I've never done it, nor do I know the coach...

http://www.alcazarfencing.com/video_coaching.html

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Now that link is distgusting. Who the hell does this guy think he is?
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Now that link is distgusting. Who the hell does this guy think he is?

Ever heard of Steve Trevor, Jon Normile, Ben Solomon (to name a few)?
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for videos have a look at these

http://www.escrime-ffe.fr/videos/videos.htm


but really you will have to buy some dvds from the fencing.net store.

oh and another couple of links that no one else has mentioned

http://users.erols.com/dlittell/


and the (slightly dated) canadian coaching manuels

http://www.fencing.ca/coaching_manuals/manuals.htm


for an epee bnook with lofts of pictures have a look at

"epee combat" by Terry Kingston (again I thnik that fencing.net sell it.)
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You're all pretty sensitive and ready to cast negative names, huh?

Not really "lessons" but you know, like guides and things? I own several
fencing books, and I'd like to see some movies showing proper fencing
motions, online guides, things like that.

Thanks for the link.

Everyone chill.

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FM,

If you're interested in watching a lesson given to students with outstanding form, I'd suggest the Tyschler cd's or dvd's. I don't get too much out of the dialogue, but watching the lesson is very instructive.

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web-based or CD based media is a great supplement to training, and I would recommend it to even those of us who have been fecning for a while. If these types of media weren't valuable, then those DVD's that people buy shouldn't be of much value either, but that doesn't stop us from trying those techniques we learn from thoses DVD's.
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