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Old 10-14-2004, 11:39 PM   #1
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all she do is rush in and hit o_O

How to beat some one that all she do is rush in attack with out any defense planimind at all. Once the referee say “fence” she rush in attack and always hit something either off or on target and stop the fencing action. When she gets parried and lost her right of way she would rather rush in and hit something anyway but never preform counter parry. By the way she has a great aiming point control yet awful powerful overdo parries. One of those parry that hurts a lot once you get hit upon, and for some reason every time I do parry she always push down on my lag “ouch” O_O
i got scared of her parries and stoped attact her nor preform any simple parry ripost. o_O lol

Sounds like someone who fence foil like an epee huh?

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Old 10-15-2004, 12:13 AM   #2
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Sounds like an epee fencer who isn't bothering to play by the rules with foil. Tsk tsk.
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Old 10-15-2004, 01:05 AM   #3
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Sounds like an epee fencer who isn't bothering to play by the rules with foil. Tsk tsk.
naah...epee fencers spend 90% of the time bouncing and 10% of the time counterattacking or fleching...

btw, against her, i'd keep good distance making sure her initial attack lands short then launch my own offensive...how strong can this girl be anyway??
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Old 10-15-2004, 01:17 AM   #4
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When she gets parried and lost her right of way she would rather rush in and hit something anyway but never preform counter parry.

If she's able to poke you after you've attempted to parry her, you haven't parried her, have you.

When you parry someone, you don't just tap their blade, you control it and move it to a position where it does not threaten you while your blade now threatens them. It sounds to me like what you're doing is tapping her blade instead of truly parrying her.
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Old 10-15-2004, 01:18 AM   #5
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I foil or épée an opposition should do the trick.

An attack in prep, when well timed, might be effective as well.
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Old 10-15-2004, 03:19 AM   #6
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I would watch them fence someone who can beat them and see how they do it. Observation of you opponent can be very helpful to pick out their weaknesses.
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try to rush her and do it faster than her?
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I think that taking a parry of Prime could be a good idea against this fencer. The advantage of using a pronated parry is that if you excecute it properly it will be rock solid so there's no way she could go through it with power alone.

It is almost more of a counter-attack than a parry, since you step into the attackers distance at the same time as you take the blade. My advice is not to over use it, but I've often used it as a way to take advantage of an over-exuberant attacking fencer like this one.

It's best used in conjunction with a step forward and to the right. After she's impaled herself on it the for the first time it she might have second thoughts about charging straight back in. You could also try ducking with a stop hit. Either way your footwork is going to be key.
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Ducking with the stop-hit works great. My son found himself up against a young female who would literally run down the strip like Vinc described. He was terrified, and, without thinking, stuck his arm straight out in self-defense. She impaled herself on his blade.

Back on guard. Again, his opponent sprinted down the strip, and I could read the fear in my son's body language, and he allowed her to approach so far, then suddenly ducked, but stuck his blade straight out. He told me later on it was purely a protective measure - that he was truly afraid of her.

She hit his blade so hard it nearly bent in half. She ended up rubbing the area that was hit, and after the en guarde was called for the third time and the call to fence, she did not charge down the strip. She was still smarting from the two earlier hits she had taken, and it was evident that although my son was still afraid of her, she was now quite wary of him.
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Hi all,
So ideas- the duck works great if you can be sure (in foil) that your opponent will not change the position of the tip (hit you anyway, dispite the duck). If you parry (which could be a tap in foil), make a clean repost- and stop running. This should look like a beat attack, the time from beat to hit must be very small (especially if shes running you down!). you could also try a false counterattack then real action (get away go, parry, real counter) as long as she buys it and stops the rushing in an attempt to finish.
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If she's able to poke you after you've attempted to parry her, you haven't parried her, have you.

When you parry someone, you don't just tap their blade, you control it and move it to a position where it does not threaten you while your blade now threatens them. It sounds to me like what you're doing is tapping her blade instead of truly parrying her.
For foil and even for epee, I'd disagree with that statement. All you have to do is move your opponent's point off target, not "control" her blade. I'd recommend just doing a beat parry and riposte. If it's your right of way, it doesn't matter if she hits you first.

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thanks to all the replies o and she is a lefty by the way ._. forgot to add the up
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