Okay, question from I newbie here

[rjccj]

If it was a red card, wouldn't that mean that infractions afterwards would be red cards? If it's just a point penalty, then you'd still have yellows to work with right?

[Inquartata]

AFAIK, the cuissard is not required for sabre jackets. At least, I have fenced in a number of big tournament where the referee went so far as to require lame and jacket to be opened to show my underarm protector, and the lack of the strap was not commented upon.

[Purple Fencer]

Originally posted by rjccj:
<STRONG>If it was a red card, wouldn't that mean that infractions afterwards would be red cards? If it's just a point penalty, then you'd still have yellows to work with right?</STRONG>

Now I KNOW I've been tired all day...bthg you and Oiuyt must be correct about this...it makes sense.

Awarding the cards WAS one of the problem areas on my director's study guide results.

[Purple Fencer]

I've made some updates to the guide and moved it to a new location. http://members.tripod.com/Purple_Fen...p_Package.html will always have the most up to date version.

[Purple Fencer]

Originally posted by Inquartata:
<STRONG>AFAIK, the cuissard is not required for sabre jackets. At least, I have fenced in a number of big tournament where the referee went so far as to require lame and jacket to be opened to show my underarm protector, and the lack of the strap was not commented upon.</STRONG>

Well, part of the director's job is to make sure everyone's got the required safety gear. I ask to see the underarm protector when I direct (chest protector also, if a lady's fencing)

I asked Larry Dunn about the crotch strap and got an answer from him. It's yes, and here's why (even if the lame is being used). In the old pre-electric days, as some of us know, the sabre jacket ended at the waist....where the target ended. it wsa a bit easy sometimes to see if a hit landed on target because it hit the sabre jacket and not the knickers. Some fencers knew this, and made sure that they extended their arms upwards, thus raising the target area up. If it didn't the jacket, it didn't hit the target. Kinda like if the light don't go off, there ain't no hit.

Obviously, the use of the crotch strap makes this tactic impossible in a dry tourney.

[sabreuse]

PurpleFencer--

You ask to SEE the women's chest protectors?

[Purple Fencer]

Originally posted by sabreuse:
<STRONG>PurpleFencer--

You ask to SEE the women's chest protectors? </STRONG>

Actually, yes...'specially if they're really cute

Seriously, though, it's part of the director's job to make sure everyone's got all thei gear on, and that includes the chest protectors for women.

If the underarm protector's one of those really large ones, I'll ask the lady to thump on her chest so I can hear if she's got the "Barbie boobs" on

[Peach]

Since I just use the "hubcaps" in the pockets of my jacket, I really prefer if a director asks me to thump. At one point I had a jacket without the pockets and put the hucaps in my bra, and it would have been really funny if the referee had asked to see those.

--Delia