Rehearsals

[drippingwet]

Does anyone have any good ideas for rehearsals/bait-and-switch. I've got some quite good ones already e.g. beat extend, beat extend, beat (deceived) parry riposte. Or ballestra, ballestra, appel and sweeping 7 with flick to back.

Training your opponent is a nice little tactic when your not going flat out. Actually, are there any ideas for using this tactic when your are chasing each other down the strip.

[mackillian]

Except when your oppenent is looking for a pattern and knows that when you've done something twice, they'd better not respond the same way the third time.

[glowstix]

Originally Posted by mackillian

Except when your oppenent is looking for a pattern and knows that when you've done something twice, they'd better not respond the same way the third time.

thats an unintentional rehearsal..you don't want that!! the worst is when you are attempting to use rehearsals to train your opponent and they know it and it backfires on you..then you feel like this ->

i think another way to use rehearsals is with footwork patterns and speed changes, not only blade work.

[drippingwet]

Do these tactics generally work with anything other than the 1,2,3 approach.

And anyway, its worth it even if they only fall for it a couple of times.

[mackillian]

I'm well aware of it on both ends. When I'm on the strip I'm setting my own patterns and breaking them. Or I'm watching my opponent's pattern and my reactions to them and change my reaction after a couple times.

Patterns are great, and worth it, and aren't just kept to bladework. They encompass distance, tempo, everything. There's a lot to analyze on the strip as you fence. They can work any way you want them. You can turn patterns around on your opponent when they're trying to make you do what they want.

It's great fun.

[SOA9286]

The one I was taught over the weekend is extend beat/extend beat/extend parry 8 riposte/retreat extend.

[acaba]

(The following is based in epee, but can be adapted to foil)

One of my favorite bait and switch tactics is to show parry-riposte, but score with attack. It works because of the change in direction. The p-r is going backward to draw the opponent into an attack, then a deeper attack, then a really deep attack. When they start to make the really deep attack, insted of going backward, you step in and hit with eiter simple attack-in-prep or opposition. The change of direction really can mess with people's heads.

In the same vein, one can show counter attack, but make parry-riposte. Both of these sets work well when you move a different direction between the two parts.

Aaron

[downunder]

Originally Posted by drippingwet

Or ballestra, ballestra, appel and sweeping 7 with flick to back..

doesn't work anymore. deep wind up flicks simply arn't doable anymore, and i've refereed high levels at major british opens and the cadet and junior champs with the new timings.

[drippingwet]

What are your thoughts on substitution with a flank hit?

[Gruntled]

****make drippingwet shutup and I'll shutup also***