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Old 10-13-2004, 04:07 AM   #41
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'Eurofighter fleche' Since according to you I'm a European? (it's a new aircraft)
Getting literal here. The Eurofighter does not have propellers... although it does have turbine vanes...

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Aren't turbines faster?
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Advance/continuing fleche while making multiple, lightning fast, wide diameter circular parries (more like a propeller spinning around in front of me). If he attacks my prep, his blade is picked up, swept into parry 9, and from 9 I flick to back while fleching past. If they do nothing, then the distance is close enough for a flick to back.
Ah, this should make spotting drippingwet at the Leicester Open much easier... That and when he collects the U20 trophy.

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Thanks to the new rules, I'll have to substitute the flick part with a flank shot. I think I'll start paracticing it tonight.
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By the way, I said I've got my eye on it, not that I will. Although that's not to say that I won't.
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By the way, I said I've got my eye on it, not that I will. Although that's not to say that I won't.
That's ok, ambition is good. Although I wonder why you didn't do the GB Juniors last weekend - that would have been a good competition to do...

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Why? Is she an old woman?

Oh, I am 19, but does U20 actually include 20 year olds?
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Why? Is she an old woman?
I wouldn't say that exactly... (depending on your definition of "old")

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Oh, I am 19, but does U20 actually include 20 year olds?
They will all be under 20 year old at Leicester. The rule for U20 is "Junior = Under 20 on 1st January (Born 1985 or later)". I assume that your 20th birthday is after 1st January...

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What's the reason for that? You're not 20 until you're 20!
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What's the reason for that? You're not 20 until you're 20!
The U20/Junior definition is a national/international thing (so I assume that the Leicester Open uses the same definition...).

It's to do with the Junior World Championships, the rules are that you have to be under 20 years old on the 1st January of the year of the championships to compete. Therefore, to do any junior events (which are primarily for selection for the Junior Worlds) or be considered a junior you need to eligible to compete at the Junior Worlds.

Does that mean that you are 20 before 1st January?

By the way, is there definitely a prize for best Junior at Leciester?

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1984!!!

And yep, it mentioned it on the entry form.

Never mind, you might not see me lift the trophy (the U20 one at least) but keep an eye out for my 'propeller fleche with modification flank shot'.
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1984!!!
Ooopsss, I could be wrong - Leicester may apply "under 20" in the obvious sense, rather than the national/international eligibility sense... You might want to ask at check-in.

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Never mind, you might not see me lift the trophy (the U20 one at least) but keep an eye out for my 'propeller fleche with modification flank shot'.
Will keep an eye out...
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Footwork system

So a system that I use for drilling footwork with my students and have found useful for "preprogramming" attacks is a number based system. I can't say that I came up with the concept myself, but I don't remember where I first came across it. Nonetheless its entirely useful.

Each of a series of simple footwork actions is assigned a number from 1-9.
In my system:
1 - advance
2 - retreat
3 - lunge
4 - recover back
5 - crossover back
6 - jump forward
7 - fleche
8 - appel
9 - jump back

You start out by drilling with the class by calling out these simple numbers in slow tempo, having them work very clearly on their form. Then start adding in combinations; eleven for example is double-advance (1 and 1). Thirteen is advance lunge. Thirteen-three would be advance-lunge, remise lunge with a forward recover (good for epeeists). Sixty-three, balestra, and so on.

As the students get more and more profficent in it (and it doesn't take long), you can being to increase the tempo of what you're calling out and begin to really push them. You can also vary the tempo of how you're calling it out

Finally, you can use the system to "pre-program" different tactical sets. For example, when my sabre fencers start doing the mindless simultanious thing, calling out to them "Eleven, eight, nine!" reminds them to stop short and jump back to cause the opponents attack to fail (and then take over the attack). Or telling them "one-thirteen or one-three" reminds them to use an accelerated attack. "Thirty-four, ninety-three" would be a second intention parry riposte. And so forth.

Another nice thing about this system is that when using it to drill footwork it gets the brain in gear, so that footwork drilling doesn't become a mindless boring thing. I even use it with very new beginners - maybe limited to actions 1-4 as soon as they can do a halfway decent advance, retreat, lunge and recover. Then as they learn more, add those numbers in.
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