10-09-2004, 02:01 AM
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| Want Some Wood?
Want some wood, cackle, cackle?
President Bush himself would have qualified as a "small business owner" under the Republican definition, based on his 2001 federal income tax returns. He reported $84 of business income from his part ownership of a timber-growing enterprise. However, 99.99% of Bush's total income came from other sources that year. (Bush also qualified as a "small business owner" in 2000 based on $314 of "business income," but not in 2002 and 2003 when he reported his timber income as "royalties" on a different tax schedule.) http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6198935/?GT1=5472 | 
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10-09-2004, 04:14 AM
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| Kerry doesn't have that problem since he lives of his millionaire wife. Kerry is a coward. | |
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10-09-2004, 09:27 AM
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| ...but a coward with ketchup!
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10-09-2004, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge Kerry doesn't have that problem since he lives of his millionaire wife. Kerry is a coward. | Oh yes, that's right. He's a coward.
I'm sorry ma'am. I can't marry you. You have millions, I have mere hundreds of thousands, and a true heart. We cannot be married for you see I will be a coward if we do. Where oh where could I find an upper middle class woman I can love instead?
What a crock of your lunacy.
The real coward is the hunched over Bush who is clueless on every issue including his own financial position! | |
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10-09-2004, 12:36 PM
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| Maybe one day Kerry's wife will die and then you can marry him since you are so in love with him. | |
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10-09-2004, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge Maybe one day Kerry's wife will die and then you can marry him since you are so in love with him. | What a response. I feel like I should respond back to you with a Na hah.
Are we playing who's daddy is a superhero here? or are we expressing opinions about candidates vying for leadership of our nation. "... so in love with him..." What a response! | |
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10-09-2004, 02:46 PM
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| Maeve_Mari - don't feed the troll. He's feeling inadequate and just wants attention.
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10-09-2004, 03:33 PM
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| I saw somewhere that this was one of the tricks of the Republicans to push their "tax reform" through. Just as Bush wanted to reclassify MacDonald workers as manufacturing jobs, the Repubs took anyone who made a dollar from anything that wasn't income and made them small business owners.
From the Tax Policy Center: http://taxpolicycenter.org/publicati...cfm?PubID=8877 Quote: |
"A common claim in recent tax policy debates is that raising or cutting the highest income tax rates would disproportionately affect small businesses ... First, few small business owners face the highest marginal income tax rates. Less than 9 percent of returns with small business income are in tax brackets of 28 percent and above, less than 3 percent face rates of 33 percent [the rate on income between $175,000 and $312,000] and only 1.3 percent are in the top bracket [income above $312,000 per year]. Roughly 97 percent of small businesses would not be affected at all by increases in the top two tax rates..."
| Here is another interesting article from the National Small Business Association: http://www.nsbaadvocate.com/content/583.shtml
Basically it states that less than 1 in 25 small business owners would se an increase in taxes.
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10-09-2004, 07:06 PM
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| I just loved that last line: The scorer's table reproaches President Bush for not knowing when he has wood. I love MSNBC.  | |
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10-10-2004, 12:42 AM
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#10 | | Curmudgeon-in-Chief
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Originally Posted by Maeve_Mari
President Bush himself would have qualified as a "small business owner" under the Republican definition, based on his 2001 federal income tax returns. He reported $84 of business income from his part ownership of a timber-growing enterprise.
| Nope. At least, not exactly:
"Bush does own part interest in a tree-growing company, but the $84 came from an oil and gas company and we should have reported it as such.)"-From Fact Check.org
Slippery things, those facts...
Anyway, twisting the truth in the interest of getting elected is what successful politicians do second best ( right after raising money ). I daresay that none of us are surprised at this instance of Presidential exaggeration.
Say, doesn't this belong in the Politics ghetto? | |
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10-10-2004, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge Kerry doesn't have that problem since he lives of his millionaire wife. Kerry is a coward. | I'd be hesitant to call any man with three Purple Hearts a coward...
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10-10-2004, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Inquartata Nope. At least, not exactly:
"Bush does own part interest in a tree-growing company, but the $84 came from an oil and gas company and we should have reported it as such.)"-From Fact Check.org
Slippery things, those facts... | The FactCheck.org site clarified the $84 from Timber income for 2001, but Mr. Bush still received royalty income for 2002 and 2003 and still today owns it!
The specifics really are irrelevant and the dollar value is infact small (thought it does still qualify him as a Small Business Owner.) The funny (sad) part of it was the dufus "Want some wood?" remark he made clearly having no idea at all that it was true! | |
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10-10-2004, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Inquartata Say, doesn't this belong in the Politics ghetto? | Free Speech shouldn't be sequestered to the ghetto!  | |
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10-10-2004, 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by lochinvar I'd be hesitant to call any man with three Purple Hearts a coward... | Purple Heart just means you got hit. It doesn't mean you fought. Kerry was always in the very back. Vietnam vets hate him.
Kerry was over in Nam scewing around with the villagers while Bush was serving in The National Guard. Bush has been protecting us from terrorist attacks to the Homeland even back then. | |
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10-10-2004, 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge Purple Heart just means you got hit. It doesn't mean you fought. Kerry was always in the very back. Vietnam vets hate him.
Kerry was over in Nam scewing around with the villagers while Bush was serving in The National Guard. Bush has been protecting us from terrorist attacks to the Homeland even back then. | Psha! Yeah... whatever. We're not protected from attacks. Just you wait and see... they're taking away our civil liberties!
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10-10-2004, 01:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Maeve_Mari Free Speech shouldn't be sequestered to the ghetto! | People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use. | |
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10-10-2004, 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarah Psha! Yeah... whatever. We're not protected from attacks. Just you wait and see... they're taking away our civil liberties! |
Which civil liberties?
You probably don't pay taxes yet. | |
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10-10-2004, 01:43 AM
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| Unfortunately, our freedom is gone. We have become pansies (this is a generalization) and due to that, we're slaves yet again. (another generalization)
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10-10-2004, 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge Purple Heart just means you got hit. It doesn't mean you fought. Kerry was always in the very back. Vietnam vets hate him.
Kerry was over in Nam scewing around with the villagers while Bush was serving in The National Guard. Bush has been protecting us from terrorist attacks to the Homeland even back then. | that is exactly what he's been doing, right?
homeland security yearly budget: $40bil (33.8 this year, actually, afaik)
war in iraq: $120bil and growing daily
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10-10-2004, 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarah Unfortunately, our freedom is gone. We have become pansies (this is a generalization) and due to that, we're slaves yet again. (another generalization) | Examples please? | |
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