10-10-2004, 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by noodle that is exactly what he's been doing, right?
homeland security budget: $40bil
war in iraq: $120bil and growing daily
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10-10-2004, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge Come on man! that was a joke! But I do believe we need to finish the job in iraq. | iternet relays sarcasm poorly
job definitely needs to be handled, no doubts about that.
i'm just pointing out the obvious; people tend to say that bush has the security of the nation in mind when its pretty obvious that its not the #1 priority. how much do you think he's spending at the moment to find osama? | |
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10-10-2004, 03:01 AM
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Originally Posted by noodle iternet relays sarcasm poorly
job definitely needs to be handled, no doubts about that.
i'm just pointing out the obvious; people tend to say that bush has the security of the nation in mind when its pretty obvious that its not the #1 priority. how much do you think he's spending at the moment to find osama? | Well I think we are spending a lot to find osama and I think going to iraq is part of homeland security. It would also be nice to get all the oil in iraq so that we can have low gas prices next Summer. | |
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10-10-2004, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge Purple Heart just means you got hit. It doesn't mean you fought. Kerry was always in the very back. Vietnam vets hate him.
Kerry was over in Nam scewing around with the villagers while Bush was serving in The National Guard. Bush has been protecting us from terrorist attacks to the Homeland even back then. | Those were meant as jokes too, right? He got a Silver Star and a Bronze star, and there are veterans who publically thanked him for saving their lives. Bush was serving in the National Guard - yeah, occasionally, when he wasn't absent for the golf course or a political campaign
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10-10-2004, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarah Psha! Yeah... whatever. We're not protected from attacks. Just you wait and see... they're taking away our civil liberties! | Care to put any kind of evidence behind that besides simply your own say-so? | |
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10-10-2004, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarah Unfortunately, our freedom is gone. We have become pansies (this is a generalization) and due to that, we're slaves yet again. (another generalization) | Care to elaborate on your vague generalizations at all? | |
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10-10-2004, 02:35 PM
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| Of course she has no examples. All the liberals are like that. If you watch any debate between a Republican and a demorat you will see that it is always the Republican that comes out with the exact figures and facts. All the demorat does is make up lie so that the Republican has to waste time defending himself against these lies instead of making his points. | |
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10-10-2004, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge Of course she has no examples. All the liberals are like that. If you watch any debate between a Republican and a demorat you will see that it is always the Republican that comes out with the exact figures and facts. All the demorat does is make up lie so that the Republican has to waste time defending himself against these lies instead of making his points. | Like Gore against Bush, when bush just threw awaya Al's facts and figures with the quote: "Fuzzy numbers?" Nice catch, RL. ;(
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10-10-2004, 02:59 PM
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10-10-2004, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge Of course she has no examples. All the liberals are like that. If you watch any debate between a Republican and a demorat you will see that it is always the Republican that comes out with the exact figures and facts. All the demorat does is make up lie so that the Republican has to waste time defending himself against these lies instead of making his points. | I asked her, not you. | |
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10-10-2004, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge Of course she has no examples. All the liberals are like that. If you watch any debate between a Republican and a demorat you will see that it is always the Republican that comes out with the exact figures and facts. All the demorat does is make up lie so that the Republican has to waste time defending himself against these lies instead of making his points. | I do have examples. Those 'free speech boxes' where you can protest something about two miles away from the issues that you are protesting... Right to bear arms? No, you have to go through red tape to get a gun. One thing that I am upset about right now is how a lot of people consider Japan to be a nation without freedoms, yet over there you may walk around carrying a katana and not be stopped by the police, and the last time that I tried that here... I got to know my local police force very, <I>very</I> well. I do remember having a discussion with some adults at my last homeschool meeting about the social security card once having a promise not to be used as a personal identity, and when I went to get my permit, they asked for my social security card to prove my identity. My postman threatened my mother that he'd have to 'turn her in' for homeschooling us if we didn't register. I've begun to wonder why my neighbors are so greatly interested in what I am doing with my life... I don't hurt anyone, I don't plan on hurting anyone but I'm constantly being watched. The doctor has to give out any information to the police that he finds suspicious, and all government workers must report suspicious activities. I've sadly found that a private life is not in any way private...
RL, please don't call me a liberal as Libertarian is the proper term. Constitutionalist will also work, as will a believer in the Bill of Rights.
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10-10-2004, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarah I do have examples. Those 'free speech boxes' where you can protest something about two miles away from the issues that you are protesting... Right to bear arms? No, you have to go through red tape to get a gun. One thing that I am upset about right now is how a lot of people consider Japan to be a nation without freedoms, yet over there you may walk around carrying a katana and not be stopped by the police, and the last time that I tried that here... I got to know my local police force very, <I>very</I> well. I do remember having a discussion with some adults at my last homeschool meeting about the social security card once having a promise not to be used as a personal identity, and when I went to get my permit, they asked for my social security card to prove my identity. My postman threatened my mother that he'd have to 'turn her in' for homeschooling us if we didn't register. I've begun to wonder why my neighbors are so greatly interested in what I am doing with my life... I don't hurt anyone, I don't plan on hurting anyone but I'm constantly being watched. The doctor has to give out any information to the police that he finds suspicious, and all government workers must report suspicious activities. I've sadly found that a private life is not in any way private...
RL, please don't call me a liberal as Libertarian is the proper term. Constitutionalist will also work, as will a believer in the Bill of Rights. | You cannot carry around a katana in Japan. You haven't been able to since the 1890's and only samurai were able to then. No wonder you are all messed up. You are homeschooled. Your examples are weak. Liberal and Libertarian are not the same just as Democrat and democratic are not the same.
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10-10-2004, 03:45 PM
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#33 | | No, your mom's a lemur
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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge You canot carry around a katana in Japan. You haven't been able to since the 1890's and only samurai were able to then. No wonder you are all messed up. You are homeschooled. Your examples are weak. Liberal and Liberatian are not the same just as Democrat and democratic are not the same. | Of course they're not the same. That's why she wants to be known as a LIBERTARIAN (if you're going to insult her, spell it right), not a liberal. And you can carry around a katana in japan. Too many people to really give a crap of one over the other. Hell, they couldn't see you through the sea of people. GO to Japan before you carry out opinions about it. And honestly, you can carry a katana around in the U.S. too. Just not on government property. | |
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10-10-2004, 03:48 PM
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#34 | | No, your mom's a lemur
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Originally Posted by ReverseLunge Of course she has no examples. All the liberals are like that. If you watch any debate between a Republican and a demorat you will see that it is always the Republican that comes out with the exact figures and facts. All the demorat does is make up lie so that the Republican has to waste time defending himself against these lies instead of making his points. | Who's making generalizations now? | |
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10-10-2004, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Westley GO to Japan before you carry out opinions about it. And honestly, you can carry a katana around in the U.S. too. Just not on government property. | 1873: Japan grants religious freedom and adopts the Gregorian calendar 1877: the samurai revolt against the emperor who has forbidden them to carry swords, but are defeated by the regular army
1889: emperor Meiji promulgates a parliamentary constitution
I've been to Japan a couple of times. I even appeared in 2 japanese movies. | |
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10-10-2004, 08:04 PM
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