10-08-2004, 07:07 PM
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#1 | | Senior Member
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| Persuading the opponent that they're having a bad day.
I recently read an article in the BFA quarterly on agression and fencing. It mentioned someone who said that the way to beat an opponent who is better than you, is to persuade them that they are having a bad day.
Any opinions? How could you do this? | 
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10-08-2004, 07:09 PM
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| Easy.
Jedi Mind Tricks. 
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10-08-2004, 07:15 PM
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| I think the most effective way is to beat the guy by a large margin. As he walks off the strip, he thinks "How could that turkey have beaten me? I must be having a bad day" 
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10-08-2004, 07:18 PM
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| I think the idea might be to lower their confidence during the bout, not after. | |
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10-10-2004, 12:06 AM
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#5 | | Armorer
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| 15 days before the competition, give them a finalized BOM for a brand new product and tell them you need 70 of them shipped the day before the competition, resulting in your opponent getting something like only 17 hours of sleep in the 72 hours before the tournament. Not that I might be speaking from immediate personal experience .
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10-10-2004, 12:22 AM
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| Recently I fenced a pool bout against a fencer who was not too good-someone who I could easily beat, but who might get a few on me. The first touch, I ducked when he attacked, and got the touch. After that, his game was so thrown off that I beat him pretty easily. It was exciting.
Doing those kinds of things gets more and more difficult as you fence better fencers, because they have more confidence in their moves, and more variety to choose from. | |
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10-10-2004, 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by neevel 15 days before the competition, give them a finalized BOM for a brand new product and tell them you need 70 of them shipped the day before the competition, resulting in your opponent getting something like only 17 hours of sleep in the 72 hours before the tournament. Not that I might be speaking from immediate personal experience . | Having fun with the new chips, then? | |
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10-10-2004, 12:55 AM
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| Actually, I'm so pleased with the way we managed to execute the production that the mediocre level of my fencing today wasn't much of a bother. I spent tonight trying to reverse-engineer a drink I had at a Martini bar with the staff of our contract manufacturer to celebrate getting this first run done.
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10-10-2004, 01:17 AM
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| Late night engineering/construction sessions are my favourite thing in the world (next to fencing). People always act silly after their 2nd two-litre of mountain dew...
The concept of reverse engineering a drink amuses me much more than it probably should. | |
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10-10-2004, 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by achilleus Easy.
Jedi Mind Tricks. | "That's not the parry you're looking for..." | 
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10-10-2004, 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by drippingwet I recently read an article in the BFA quarterly on agression and fencing. It mentioned someone who said that the way to beat an opponent who is better than you, is to persuade them that they are having a bad day.
Any opinions? How could you do this? | What the hell for? I want to beat my opponent when he is fencing at his best. | |
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10-11-2004, 12:40 AM
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| Yeah, I would try and persuade them like this:
(fencer A)"hello fencer B, how's your day been?
(fencer B) "Pretty good, you?
(fencer A) " yes, very good and I'll wager better than your day has been"
(fencer B) " well, maybe, but my day has been quite good actually.."
(fencer A) " Well then,I now put it to you that you are perhaps having a worse day than my day"
(fencer B) "ok...possibly"
(fencer A) "then it's settled. I have now de-moralised you. Commence losing"
See it's foolproof!!
cheers,
Marc | |
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10-11-2004, 01:17 AM
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| actually happened.
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10-11-2004, 01:55 AM
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