10-06-2004, 09:13 PM
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#1 | | Just Joined
Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Colorado
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| The Pistol Grip
Whats the difference between an insulated and a non-insulated pistol grip? And is Visconti a good pistol grip brand? Let me know. Thx. -Ryan | 
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10-06-2004, 09:18 PM
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#2 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Pacoima, ca USA
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| The insuation's just a layer of paint, nothing fancy. You could ground out you opponent's hit on older boxes by placing your grip against your lame when you got naild if the grip was bare metal, hence the insulation requirement. Modern boxes take this into account, so insulation's not necessarry, although grips are often painted to color code sizes or just for looks.
Visconti is a grip style, not a company, and there are several variations of the grip. It's the most popular grip out there, but I personally prefer the Belgian. | |
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10-06-2004, 09:20 PM
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#3 | | The Judge
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,308
| the lack of paint/insulation is also a key factor in epee, where the grip should not count as a point (if you hit an uninsulated grip, it grounds out, if its insulated, it registers a touch).
as mentioned earlier, visconti is a style and i personally prefer uhlmann visconti grips and anything else is just not quite the same. | |
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10-07-2004, 07:14 AM
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#4 | | Fencing Expert
Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Angel, London
Posts: 2,479
| Insulated grips are required at foil, although not necessarily enforced.
As stated above, it is a disadvantage to have your grip insulated at epee | |
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10-16-2004, 07:47 PM
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#5 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: In mid lunge
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| Visconti isn't a brand of grip, its like a common template/mould that any company can produce. They do look slightly different from company to company, but the jist is the same. I think its a good pistol grip to start with, but I prefer a belgian grip me self.
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10-17-2004, 02:14 PM
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#6 | | Just Joined
Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Saratoga, NY
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| I've basically only fenced with Visconti...ever...The only thing was at my last club meeting a guy showed me his Russian grip...the thing is really clunky feeling...Except that the extra weight in the grip balances the sword moreso that the tip feels lighter and it's easier to swing that point around...Pretty cool I thought.
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10-17-2004, 02:15 PM
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#7 | | Senior Member
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| Russians be aight. Hard to flick with in my hands, but that won't be a problem any more....
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Heaven is where the police are British, the chefs Italian, the mechanics are German, the lovers are French, and its all organized by the Swiss.
Hell is where the police are German, the chefs are British, the mechanics are French, the lovers are Swiss, and it's all organized by the Italians.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered" George Best | |
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10-17-2004, 02:20 PM
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#8 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 279
| Ah the Visconti...
it's the next best thing to a french grip.
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10-19-2004, 11:22 AM
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#9 | | Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Orleans, LA
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| I use a Zivkovic K grip, I like it, but then again i am crazy. It requires getting use to, as it has a paddle instead of a pommel kind of thing on all of the other orthopedic grips. you really have to use it like it's a French, with the manipulator fingers.
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